Swissarms and EE.

john@ said:
Yeah curious to know, the only belt fed 5.56's I am aware of are not something you see in civilian ownership.
is your shooting club on a military range?
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Nope...regular range, Don’t wanna give too many details, it’s definitely ligit as it is a big club. No need to attract too much attention, and let the old man enjoy his possesssion. I was just pointing at that fact, because some members here are saying it’s impossible to get an ATT for a prohib.
 
vickers vanguard said:
Nope...regular range, Don’t wanna give too many details, it’s definitely ligit as it is a big club. No need to attract too much attention, and let the old man enjoy his possesssion. I was just pointing at that fact, because some members here are saying it’s impossible to get an ATT for a prohib.
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So you also believe he has a valid att to shoot his full auto? Is this what you assume or you actually saw the paperwork?
 
yeah, unless he has some secret agent att, no one in Canada can transport a prohib rifle to a range. Unless there is something we are not aware of that club could get in trouble for that. I'd report it to the exec.
 
Donny Fenn1 said:
Right but what 223 or 556 would fall into the pre-46 ruling?
Dude probably owns a movie company so could transport it to a range for testing or owned the range and has cool toys like most do.
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Then why would the op who mentioned it be so hush hush thinking the guy will be in trouble if he says who and where?
 
vickers vanguard said:
Nope...regular range, Don’t wanna give too many details, it’s definitely ligit as it is a big club. No need to attract too much attention, and let the old man enjoy his possesssion. I was just pointing at that fact, because some members here are saying it’s impossible to get an ATT for a prohib.
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If it's just a regular guy he was breaking the law and is not authorized to transport his 12.2 firearms to a range for target shooting. Key is "must not be authorized", highlighted below and explained in more detail. The guy most likely misunderstood the ATT conditions. Other possibility is the guy works for a museum/movie company/police and is testing a museum piece/prop/seized firearm, or something similar.

Firearms Act said:
Authorized Transportation of Firearms
Marginal note:places where prohibited and restricted firearms may be possessed

17 Subject to sections 19 and 20, a prohibited firearm or restricted firearm, the holder of the registration certificate for which is an individual, may be possessed only at the dwelling-house of the individual, as recorded in the Canadian Firearms Registry, or at a place authorized by a chief firearms officer.

1995, c. 39, s. 17; 2003, c. 8, s. 15.

Previous Version

18 [Repealed, 2003, c. 8, s. 15]

19 (1) An individual who holds a licence authorizing the individual to possess prohibited firearms or restricted firearms may be authorized to transport a particular prohibited firearm or restricted firearm between two or more specified places for any good and sufficient reason, including, without restricting the generality of the foregoing,

(a) for use in target practice, or a target shooting competition, under specified conditions or under the auspices of a shooting club or shooting range that is approved under section 29;

(a.1) to provide instructions in the use of firearms as part of a restricted firearms safety course that is approved by the federal Minister; or

(b) if the individual

(i) changes residence,

(ii) wishes to transport the firearm to a peace officer, firearms officer or chief firearms officer for registration or disposal in accordance with this Act or Part III of the Criminal Code,

(iii) wishes to transport the firearm for repair, storage, sale, exportation or appraisal, or

(iv) wishes to transport the firearm to a gun show.

(1.1) In the case of an authorization to transport issued for a reason referred to in paragraph (1)(a) within the province where the holder of the authorization resides, the specified places must include all shooting clubs and shooting ranges that are approved under section 29 and that are located in that province.

(2) Despite subsection (1), an individual must not be authorized to transport a prohibited firearm, other than a handgun referred to in subsection 12(6.1), between specified places except for the purposes referred to in paragraph (1)(b).
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Previously in section 18, only 12.6 firearms were specifically authorized for transport to ranges for target practice, the caveat was the CFO could authorize possession essentially anywhere they wanted. As such, they would authorize possession of 12.2-12.5 firearms at ranges for the purpose of target practice. Section 18 was removed and 19(2) added which excludes prohibited firearms other than 12.6 firearms from authorized possession in places other than those listed in section 19(1)(b).
 
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john@ said:
Yeah curious to know, the only belt fed 5.56's I am aware of are not something you see in civilian ownership.
is your shooting club on a military range?
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Not quite accurate. There are a handful of Fightlite Mission Configurable Rifles and MCR Upper Receivers privately owned in Canada. Sadly, with the US State Dept's refusal to approve any further export of such firearms for civilian sales, there won't be any more coming to Canada unless something changes State-side....


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Ok, I been wondering why these have been listed as out of stock for so long at the dealers that were selling them.
 
I love how we have a guy run down ten people on the street with a cargo van and they are concerned about the guys that can afford the $4,000 rifle possibly-but-hardly-likely illegally modifying his rifle to shoot full auto. For shame.
 
Bartok5 said:
Not quite accurate. There are a handful of Fightlite Mission Configurable Rifles and MCR Upper Receivers privately owned in Canada. Sadly, with the US State Dept's refusal to approve any further export of such firearms for civilian sales, there won't be any more coming to Canada unless something changes State-side....


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Also semi auto M60's
 
Bartok5 said:
Not quite accurate. There are a handful of Fightlite Mission Configurable Rifles and MCR Upper Receivers privately owned in Canada. Sadly, with the US State Dept's refusal to approve any further export of such firearms for civilian sales, there won't be any more coming to Canada unless something changes State-side....


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Wolverine just got a batch of three, the pic rail version is headed my way though, so two left.

They are flush out of m27 links though. Hoping someone here will PM me with EMT instructions to buy 5 or 10 ;)
 
rambones said:
You guys need to take a chill pill.

There are individuals with prohib licenses for their business that can do this type of thing.
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Exactly, I have a buddy with a manufacturing license and I've shot his rifles full auto and suppressed at the range in Calgary.

I have no idea if the guy in the earlier story has the same license or if he was just breaking the law but it doesn't really matter, some guys are allowed to do it and the unfortunate part is that there are for lack of a better term FUDDS out there that will call the police on a fellow firearms owner and report him if they were at the range that day without bothering to go talk to the guy and ask if he is licensed to shoot the rifle he has.


Ironheart said:
You can thank JR for the Swiss Arms going prohib.....if it wasnt for him these would of never been under the radar and it would be business as usual
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Yup, that guys store will never see another dime from me.
 
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