Appendix Carry and Muzzle Direction
- Thread starter Ganderite
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Looks fake.
If it isn't, then the lady has sure seen a lot of those darwin-awards type champions. 15 seconds and she has surgical gloves and a touriquet, and 911 is on the way. Most people would just duck for cover if they hear a gunshot of unknown origin.
If it isn't, then the lady has sure seen a lot of those darwin-awards type champions. 15 seconds and she has surgical gloves and a touriquet, and 911 is on the way. Most people would just duck for cover if they hear a gunshot of unknown origin.
Yes, she was very cool and quick.
It appears to be a commercial gun range. Maybe she gets regular practice?
It takes balls to carry a cocked pistol aimed at the Twins.
Yeah, cause you might not keep those balls for so long
Honestly, I think it's more foolishness than courage. Or fear. Rationnaly, there's a lot more chances you're gonna shoot yourself than the chance of anything good coming out of this.
Maybe that is her accident prone boyfriend and she has learned to be prepared for when he hurts himself.
smelly pete
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Training video? She already had the gloves on?
mudgunner49
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Folks have been carrying in the appendix/vasectomy position for a long, long time - take a peek at some of the pics out of the old west and it was quite common. In the modern era it's been pretty common since at least the 40's and I know cops who have carried concealed in that position mostly with revolvers, but since the '80s it's become even more common with pistols. The big issue I see is threefold, gun selection, holster selection and reasoning.
I'd for sure want a pistol with an external hammer that I could get my thumb on to ensure that it was forward as I holster, I think many of the DAO and DA autos are ideal here (SIG 220-series, Beretta 92/96, CZ75 carried hammer down, etc). While I know lots of dudes (and dudettes) who carry striker fired pistols in this location without incident, I don't think that would be my choice...
The holster needs to be designed for this position and the reholstering technique needs to be such that the body is angled so that if the gun discharges on holstering the line of the bore is clear of body parts. And holstering is not a speed event - draw quickly, holster reluctantly. I see this trend in practical shooting where guys feel they need to holster "with authority"... an accident waiting to happen... every time I re-holster I say in my head "please don't shoot yourself" - so far, so good...
There are many advantages to AIWB, especially from the concealment, gun protection/defence and prevention of the bump frisk aspects, but there needs to be a process whereby folks decide to carry and subsequently train to the no failure level before dong so. I think much of the problem and attendant risk comes from people carrying in this position just because "XYZ" does, or "ex-DeltaRangerSniperSealFAG (Former Action Guy, to the other) says it's the coolest.
my 2 cents (Canadian)...
I'd for sure want a pistol with an external hammer that I could get my thumb on to ensure that it was forward as I holster, I think many of the DAO and DA autos are ideal here (SIG 220-series, Beretta 92/96, CZ75 carried hammer down, etc). While I know lots of dudes (and dudettes) who carry striker fired pistols in this location without incident, I don't think that would be my choice...
The holster needs to be designed for this position and the reholstering technique needs to be such that the body is angled so that if the gun discharges on holstering the line of the bore is clear of body parts. And holstering is not a speed event - draw quickly, holster reluctantly. I see this trend in practical shooting where guys feel they need to holster "with authority"... an accident waiting to happen... every time I re-holster I say in my head "please don't shoot yourself" - so far, so good...
There are many advantages to AIWB, especially from the concealment, gun protection/defence and prevention of the bump frisk aspects, but there needs to be a process whereby folks decide to carry and subsequently train to the no failure level before dong so. I think much of the problem and attendant risk comes from people carrying in this position just because "XYZ" does, or "ex-DeltaRangerSniperSealFAG (Former Action Guy, to the other) says it's the coolest.
my 2 cents (Canadian)...
Still alive
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Has to be a training video of some sort. Guy looked proficient with his firearm. He was nowhere near the gun when it went off. The gun was clearly holstered and not snagged on clothing. A holstered firearm is not going to go boom on its own without some encouragement.
He looked way too calm for having shot himself and also, the discarded holster had no visible blood when it hit the floor.
He looked way too calm for having shot himself and also, the discarded holster had no visible blood when it hit the floor.
Well said.
Come on guys. Loose shirts and loose shorts are the bane of striker fired pistols. There is NO safety on virtually all striker fired pistols. Pull the trigger and the gun goes bang. At the very least you my feel the hammer coming back and/or have the safety applied or may require more effort to retract.
If memory serves me correctly an IDPA shooter in Chilliwack shot himself in the leg/foot and an IPSC shooter managed the same thing in Alberta a few years back. I only managed to put three holes in a pair of 511 pants. This is not an isolated case it happens more than you think.
Judging from the victims reaction it was no training film.
I love my M&P's and PPQ's but they have the ability to bite back, be aware.
Take Care
Bob
If memory serves me correctly an IDPA shooter in Chilliwack shot himself in the leg/foot and an IPSC shooter managed the same thing in Alberta a few years back. I only managed to put three holes in a pair of 511 pants. This is not an isolated case it happens more than you think.
Judging from the victims reaction it was no training film.
I love my M&P's and PPQ's but they have the ability to bite back, be aware.
Take Care
Bob
Not quite true, there are no ACTIVE safeties on most striker fired pistols.
Well there is the FPB that should prevent the gun from firing when dropped. The 2 piece trigger on the Glock, M&P, & PPQ are nothing more than window dressing. It surely did not do the shooter in the video any good nor the incidents I noted. Folks can think what they will as to the effectiveness of the passive safeties.
Take Care
Bob
Take Care
Bob
Three passive safeties Bob, and they all work. Dummy in the video either had obstructions in the holster which contacted the trigger and fired as it was designed to do, or his holster is poor quality(soft) and allowed something else to contact the trigger.
It would be nice if Glocks had a push button trigger bar lock on the back slide cover plate, so you lock the action with your thumb while holstering, a bit like putting your thumb under the hammer spur of a revolver.
No! More likely his shirt tail caught the trigger and it pulled on the trigger. Don't be quite so hard on the guy. #### happens and it could have been you. The trigger safety only works if the outside of the trigger is the only part of the trigger that gets pulled. I would not bet a plug nickle on that happening anymore than my life or my twig and berries as the Brits say.
I am having a brain cramp what is the third? Neither of the two I mentioned helps much if the shirt catches the trigger.
Take Care
Bob
Look up Glock Tau Gadget.
Can't tell if sarcasm or not but they do make it
Well, there you go, I learned something, thank you.
