Custom Remington 700 SPS Tactical. Need Second Opinions.

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So I purchased a Remington 700 SPS Tactical and have pre-ordered the Magpul pro 700 chassis. Was wondering what you guys would recommend for making a more tactical precision rifle?


One of the big considerations is purchasing a bolt with a larger more grippy handle, because the short handle with the little knob that comes standard, A, isn’t a very smooth action and, B, is too short and I’m concerned that I’ll knock the glass when trying to cycle in new rounds.


Also wondering for scopes, what is the difference between getting one in MIL’s and in MOA’s. Which is better (if applicable)?


Current style Bolt I’m looking for, but I have no clue where to grab one in Canada;
http://pacifictoolandgauge.com/remington-700-1-piece-bolts/9533-1-piece-short-action-sa-remington-700-bolt.html


Knob;
http://pacifictoolandgauge.com/rifle-bolt-knobs/222-tactical-bolt-knob.html?search_query=Knob&results=14


Trigger Tech Trigger;
https://www.firearmsoutletcanada.com/triggertech-rem-700-special-trigger-curved.html#.WzOazBZE2Ec


Scope (MOA and MIL);
http://www.bullseyelondon.com/vortex-razor-hd-rifle-scope-35mm-tube-5-20x-50mm-side-focus-25-moa-rev-first-focal-illuminated-ebr-2-reticle-stealth-shadow-black-rzr-52005.html

http://www.bullseyelondon.com/vortex-razor-hd-rifle-scope-35mm-tube-5-20x-50mm-side-focus-1-10-mil-adjustments-10-mil-rev-first-focal-illuminated-ebr-2b-reticle-stealth-shadow-black-rzr-52006.html


Still unsure on;
Flash/Compensator
Bi-pods


Open to suggestions. Can anyone help?
 
I can't really comment on the bolts or handles you've mentioned because I don't have experience there. I do however hate the factory Remington handles so I know what you're going through there.

Triggertech trigger is nice. I've had a couple. They break crisp and are simple to install yourself. Definitely an upgrade to any Remington 700 I'd recommend.

There's so many articles debating MOA vs. MRAD (mil) it's not even funny. What it comes down to is personal preference. Pick on, learn it and shoot. If you have friends that already run tactical scopes and you shoot with them regularly, see what they're running and choose that. It may just be easier that you're all talking in the same language. Neither one really converts to inches vs. metric, they are units of angle. If I did it again I'd probably go MRAD, but I already have a couple MOA scopes and don't feel like changing them out just yet.

Not sure what caliber your rifle is, but a good muzzle brake is awesome for helping to spot your own impacts on target. Check out the Insite arms Heathen Brake.

The most common bipods for a tactical rifle right now are probably either Harris, or Atlas. The latter being pricier.
 
No need to buy a new bolt just have an over sized bolt knob installed, you’ll spend more than the action is worth changing out the whole bolt. They aren’t just drop in’s, you’ll have to have a gunsmith install the new bolt, possibly ream the action race ways and re headspace the barrel. Trigger tech is probably the best trigger for the money out there and their customer service is awesome. As far as scopes go that totally up to you pick one you like and learn to use it.
 
If the factory barrel doesn't shoot to your liking... the best upgrade will be to put on a quality match barrels. There are gunsmith and prefit options and both work.

If you want to invest and swap a bolt at that time, by all means but you are now dangerously close to the investment in a custom action which is SOOOOO much nicer.

The Rem 700 donor action was THE base to use over the last 45yrs... but as other factory actions have improved their manf and tighten tolerances AND there is an amazing flood of fine custom actions, you really have to crunch the numbers to see what is best for you.

It is like buying a base Civic and spending $25,000 to build a turbo'ed go fast rig.... or you can just get a Civic SI or Type R for similar money but soooo much nicer performance... and extras you simply can't put into the base Civic.

You end up in the same place and spend similar money but you have a rig with far less value.

If you really want a budget precision rig, start with the Rem 783 or Tikka T3

Jerry
 
For your bolt knob, check out the KRG bolt lift. Go big Tactical has them. Its a bolt knob that installs over the existing handle with no modification. Solid and simple. Colour options and 2 difference sizes/ styles.

I got mine for about $50 shipped regular mail from. A different retailer.

Or, for a threaded knob check out Tacord near Toronto. He is very reasonable although busy.

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Mystic Precision said:
If the factory barrel doesn't shoot to your liking... the best upgrade will be to put on a quality match barrels. There are gunsmith and prefit options and both work.

If you want to invest and swap a bolt at that time, by all means but you are now dangerously close to the investment in a custom action which is SOOOOO much nicer.


The Rem 700 donor action was THE base to use over the last 45yrs... but as other factory actions have improved their manf and tighten tolerances AND there is an amazing flood of fine custom actions, you really have to crunch the numbers to see what is best for you.

It is like buying a base Civic and spending $25,000 to build a turbo'ed go fast rig.... or you can just get a Civic SI or Type R for similar money but soooo much nicer performance... and extras you simply can't put into the base Civic.

You end up in the same place and spend similar money but you have a rig with far less value.

If you really want a budget precision rig, start with the Rem 783 or Tikka T3

Jerry
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Any recommendations on barrels and actions? I’ve already got the rifle so I mine as well work with what I’ve already got.
 
C.308 said:
For your bolt knob, check out the KRG bolt lift. Go big Tactical has them. Its a bolt knob that installs over the existing handle with no modification. Solid and simple. Colour options and 2 difference sizes/ styles.

I got mine for about $50 shipped regular mail from. A different retailer.

Or, for a threaded knob check out Tacord near Toronto. He is very reasonable although busy.

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How do you find those bolt knob covers are for avoiding hitting your optic? I’ve got large hands which will only make this a larger issue for me.
 
juancarlos said:
Have you looked at a KRG bolt lift instead of installing a new one? For a few measly $'s it's a terrific upgrade.
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I have seen them around but dismissed them cause of my concerns it won’t clear my hand and bolt from hitting the optic. A lot of stuff I’ve seen online with serious shooters, they replace the bolt knob with taking off the current one, threading it, and adding a new bolt knob, or they replace the whole bolt itself. Figured I’d do that because the action isn’t very smooth.
 
I am showing the large size in my pic. I've got an athlon argos bar 6-24×50 / 30mm w/ medium vortex rings and it does not hit but... I had the scope a little further back at first and it hit the raised part of the magnification dial only at the lowest setting. Also had it mounted on an sps with a vortex viper 3-9× 40/ 1" med rings with no issues.

The smaller size might be better or if you have a scope with less bulk it likely won't be an issue.

I find my sps is a bit less smooth than my 5r with a jewelled bolt. I think it's the new finish that makes it feel less smooth. Wear and tear should smooth it out i would guess...but I'm a newb so I haven't worn one in yet Haha.
 
For a threaded knob Tacords site says $60 to cut and thread and $40 for their knob which resembles a badger. Again, Casey is quick to reply and nice to deal with
 
Raven41 said:
Any recommendations on barrels and actions? I’ve already got the rifle so I mine as well work with what I’ve already got.
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I have a bunch of options from the barrel manfs I work with... a variety instock at great prices. If going to buy a match barrel and have a quality install, you are in the high hundreds to $1k.

prefits are also possible which will be about 1/2 the gunsmith install cost..

A PT&G bolt is around $250 when the dust settles AND you have to have it assembled and fitted, and that will require the action to be fully blueprinted likely negating the useage of the factory bolt. If you want that slick bolt movement, you will need to hone the receiver to suit the oversized bolt body... I bet you will end with a total cost higher then many custom actions and still only just have a "factory Rem"

I can offer the Deadline action which is a great Cdn custom action.. takes pretty much all Rem 700 triggers, Savage prefit barrels which will save you a bunch on the total barrel cost, fits in many Rem 700 stocks (minor fitting may be required).

All the bells and whistles and really, very well made and finished. The action is properly nitrided which if you want to do to your Rem will add a pretty penny to your build cost.

If you are going to "gut" your Rem and just keep the action tube, the final cost is likely more then some custom actions. If you want to go that route and don't mind the final build costs, happy to help with parts and can refer for proper completion

Since you already have the rifle, bed it, go shoot it and then see what you are working with. If you really need to change everything, I would suggest you just sell the rifle as is and put the money into something with better quality and options.

YMMV.

Jerry
 
There are lots of areas to see huge gains with a stock 700 in 308 before you need to go worrying about changing bolts out and gutting the action. As Jerry (Mystic) has mentioned, if youre going to do all the upgrades at once...just sell what you have and start a brand new custom build. If you choose to keep the tools you have, I recommend these steps and upgrades:

1) Get the best optic you can afford (I prefer mils based on my experience...MOA is just as good too)
2) Get a trigger youre comfortable with (1 or 2-stage based on your preference, lots of good brands out there)
3) Get a bottom metal and bed the rifle into the factory stock
4) Get into reloading (if not done so already)
5) See what the current setup is capable of before making further changes. You should be MOA to sub-MOA at this point.

From there, your trigger, optic, bipod, etc... can all be used as you make upgrades. Cost vs accuracy gains past this point will start to reach diminishing returns, but you can:

- True the action (and do a new barrel/calibre at that time)
- Upgrade the stock or chassis based on ergonomics/features/preference
- get "stupid" into reloading consistency

At this point, you'll probably wish you had just done a custom build from the start since youre now deep into the rabbit hole...but regardless, your rifle will shoot comparatively.

This is my $0.02 based on my experience. I started with a 700AAC-SD and incrementally upgraded the triggers, chassis, optics, bipods, action/barrel, etc... which took a bit of the sting out of purchasing everything at once, and have a rifle that outshoots me (which should of course be the goal right?!?!). If I had to do it again, I may have looked at an AIAX right off the hop, but ive now got a rifle that I know intimately, and have expanded my knowledge on what works and what doesn't.
 
I agree with Oneadam12, I think it’s best I work with the barrel I have until it doesn’t work well for me anymore. I never considered a new barrel until it was mentioned here, but yeah, I think the barrel I have will do. But I am sure that I need a new bolt for a larger grip that has a little more length than the short stock one with the small knob and I also really would like a smoother action. Is there not a bolt you can purchase that is a drop in replacement? Cause I’d prefer to avoid changing the entire action. And the rifle I’m running is the 700AAC-SD threaded barrel one.
 
I will also say that the added leverage gained by the larger KRG knob did improve the feel of my sps action as well as a thin film of silicone grease on the rear of the lugs, all discoloured wear points and the (terminology??) cam surface (??) Between the bolt body and shroud/firing on assembly (bolt disassembly required).

Obviously refer to manufacturers recommendations for proper lubrication As I stated, I'm definitely no expert. But there was an improvement. The finish on the sps is a bit rough. I suspect with use the parts will wear together nicely and eventually feel better. My 5r is super slick as is but it's a much different finish.

Sorry if the lube suggestion is redundant. But hey, you never know.

I betcha if you get a KRG knob you will like it and if you don't someone on the EE will. Easy sale and can ship letter mail.
 
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