Ammo is supposed to be locked up according to the most recent version of the explosives act, which means loaded mags are supposed to be locked up.
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Magazine storage question
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Ammo is supposed to be locked up according to the most recent version of the explosives act, which means loaded mags are supposed to be locked up.
Mark
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Back in my Executive Protection days, the normal was four on my person, four in my briefcase (admittedly, two out of each four were meant as 'fail-safes' in case of malfunction) with the young lady I was protecting keeping two more in her purse and standing instructions that if I went down "grab the gun and RUN!"
From rcmp-grc.gc.ca,
Storing Firearms Safely
Unload and lock your firearms!
Store the ammunition separately or lock it up. It can be stored in the same locked container as the firearms.
Yes, and the RCMP are the not the final word on ammo, NRCan is and the rules are in the Explosives Act.
http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/SOR-2013-211/page-34.html#docCont
There was a lot of talk about this in 2013 and the upshot is that the last part I bolded about unauthorized people can easily be interpreted as meaning under lock and key. The first version of this act actually said ammo must be locked up, but it was amended to what is there now.
Note that I am not Safety Sally and I don't really care how anyone stores their ammo. I think in magazines sitting on a shelf is a perfectly reasonable way to do it. But everyone should realize what the law says and judge their own circumstances accordingly.
Mark
Hi,
I am running out of storage space. (I know...)
Is it legal to store the magazines of a restricted firearm outside of a metal gun cabinet/safe? Let's say just on the shelf. Unloaded of course. I know that legally only the frame is the firearm, but I thought I ask.
Thank you
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Wow. Nice setup.
One day maybe lol
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If everyone in the home is licensed then they may be stored wherever the hell you want. Stop being so paranoid and try and enjoy life..
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Hate to break your heart but I am pretty sure the OP is talking about where to store his EMPTY magazines.
Fortunately for many PAL holders, the average cop who might find himself going through someones home will know even less about the explosives regulations than the average gun owner.
Wow, you are just swinging for the fences today, arncha?
Well I'm not wrong so no.
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If we are talking about loaded magazines, then Despite everyone being licensed, you still have the requirement to not store ammunition and firearms carelessly per 86(1) of the criminal code, or in contravention of the regulations for storage 86(2). Neither of which provisions care one bit if anyone has a license.
Depending on how you want to interpret "wherever the hell you want", then yes, you are wrong.
If we are talking about empty magazines, then no one needs a license at all. So Still wrong.
And you are also wrong about mmattockx being paranoid.
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I see you're new here, so you probably don't know my disdain and disgust for the vast majority of government rules. I'm not saying everyone has to do what I say. My point is that if you are going to live on the edge of the rules (or ignore them completely, as many choose to do) then you really should know exactly where the line is drawn and how you can screw yourself up along the way. Once you are well informed (as you don't appear to be), then you can make educated choices for what you are going to do and how you are going to do it, regardless of whether you are worried about legality or not.
Thanks for the vote of confidence!
Mark
Can you show me in the CCoC or the firearms act where it lists the specific locations in which magazines can be stored? More importantly, how would anyone in LE know about your storage unless they were in your home to begin with??
I see you're new here, so you probably don't know my disdain and disgust for the vast majority of government rules. I'm not saying everyone has to do what I say. My point is that if you are going to live on the edge of the rules (or ignore them completely, as many choose to do) then you really should know exactly where the line is drawn and how you can screw yourself up along the way. Once you are well informed (as you don't appear to be), then you can make educated choices for what you are going to do and how you are going to do it, regardless of whether you are worried about legality or not.
Thanks for the vote of confidence!
Mark
Please explain how being new to the website means I am new to firearms, the law, or any other topic??
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If we are talking empty mags, then there are no rules, and as I said, no license is required.
If we are talking loaded mags, then the regulations for storage, transportion etc issued under 118 of the firearms contains rules for where ammunition can be stored in relation to firearms, regardless of whether its in a magazine or not.
Since I was responding to your comment about everyone in the house having a license, I presumed you were talking loaded mags. Either way your statement is inaccurate.
I suggested you being new here means you may not be familiar with my well established (on this site) disdain for government and government rules. You suggested I was paranoid and that I should relax and enjoy life, which are not things that anyone here who knows me would bother suggesting.
As I said, I don't care how you store your mags. I assume you are a responsible person who will avoid harming others through negligence or stupidity, which has nothing to do with following arbitrary laws. I don't care if you ever comply with any of our idiotic firearms laws as they have nothing to do with responsible behavior. What I pointed out was that you were incorrect in saying that the RCMP summary of the laws was correct and complete and that ammo storage is also covered in the criminal code and the explosives act.
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