NAZI High Power late production date

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When was a Nazi High Power (WaA140) made with serial number 55###b, Phosphate Finish and machining marks, chocolate brown bakelite grips, and magazine appears unmarked other than an Upper Case "U" on the body of the mag at the back spine near the bottom? I'm thinking sometime late war just before or when the Americans set foot in the plant?
 
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handofzeus said:
One actually sold on here last week for $399. Seller says it went in 4 minutes.
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I bet it gets relisted for the BIG FLIP in a few weeks for a H3LL of a lot more!!!

Next Question again....:)

When was a Nazi HiPower (WaA140) made with serial number 55###b, Phosphate Finish and machining marks, chocolate brown bakelite grips, and magazine appears unmarked other than an Upper Case "U" on the body of the mag at the back spine near the bottom? I'm thinking sometime late war just before or when the Americans set foot to the plant?
 
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Come on all you Geniuses!!! Don't just quote prices on every milsurp posted like the Grand PooBah and then run away! LOL I need your expertise and knowledge for once in looking in the book! LOL :)
 
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I found this info below for the "b" block so is it 1944? 55,000 b is nearing the end of the 63,000 b blocks, and if they made 8k per month in 1944, then about one month away from aug 1944? And again the serial number is 55,###b. Lower Case "b" on the end of the serial number.








".... 'a' block was made in 1943 and the 60k+ "b" block was made in 1944 up to when the germans abondoned the factory in in late aug 1944.

Since there were 100K "a" block pistols over the 12 months, assuming linear production, an average of 8k+ were made each month.

Remember the germans took the the factory on may 29 1940. They started production at serial number 50,000 and went up to around 212,000 before starting the "a" suffix numbering. This is 160,000 pistols for 1/2 of 1940, 1941 and 1942 or 30 months for an average of 5+k per month. Compared to 160,000 pistols for 1943 and 8 months of 1944 or 20 months for an average of 8+k per month. This is odd production out put."
 
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A most unusual unmarked holster that I got in July 2003 with FN High-Power pistol Sn 61741a.
I have been told that the pistol was manufactured in approx. August 1943.

It came with a WaA140 and a "U" spine marked magazine.

I put photos of this holster on Jan Still's Luger Forum back in March 2012 and got the following responses.

"If a HP magazine fits in the pouch it's pretty much a HP holster from the git go. It's made like many German holsters. The closure stud looks German, so does the closure strap. It's a little different in shape but...The bottom of the magazine pouch is correct for a German HP".


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Jerry Burney

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Comment from Anthony Vanderlinden on Still’s Forum regarding the original holster.

1. That is a fascinating holster. It combines both German as well as prewar features.

Very interesting!
Anthony

Author of FN Browning Pistols, Holsters & Shoulder-Stocks of the World
Co-author of Allied Rifle Contracts, Browning Auto-5 Shotguns
Publisher of VIS Radom, The FN-49
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I have since added a 'dla' 44 WaA 195 marked holster of a more conventional pattern.
















The 'dla' coded holster.




 
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Thanks drm3m for the reply! Nice rig you have there! One of my mags is the same as the U marked mag you posted.
Would you know if the U marked mag came after the WaA140 marked mags, and was this the trend to get away from the WaA marking and eventually go unmarked on the mags?

drm3m said:
A most unusual unmarked holster that I got in July 2003 with Browning High Power pistol Sn 61741a.
I have been told that the pistol was manufactured in approx. August 1943.

It came with a WaA140 and a "U" spine marked magazine.

I put photos of this holster on Jan Still's Luger Forum back in March 2012 and got the following responses.

"If a HP magazine fits in the pouch it's pretty much a HP holster from the git go. It's made like many German holsters. The closure stud looks German, so does the closure strap. It's a little different in shape but...The bottom of the magazine pouch is correct for a German HP".


lugerholsterrepair
Jerry Burney

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Comment from Anthony Vanderlinden on Still’s Forum regarding the original holster.

1. That is a fascinating holster. It combines both German as well as prewar features.

Very interesting!
Anthony

Author of FN Browning Pistols, Holsters & Shoulder-Stocks of the World
Co-author of Allied Rifle Contracts, Browning Auto-5 Shotguns
Publisher of VIS Radom, The FN-49
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I have since added a 'dla' 44 WaA 195 marked holster of a more conventional pattern.









The 'dla' coded holster.

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I don't know.

The fellow to ask is Charlie Wagner (cpw) on Jan Still's Luger Forum.
He is the fellow to go to for High Power questions as well as Anthony Vanderlinden.
Anthony's email address should be available on the Internet. (Because of his books.)
 
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