Plunk Test

The drop in case gauges you use can vary in size, meaning diameter and headspace length.

Example below with .308 Winchester case gauges, below is a "FIRED" Lake City 7.62 case in a Dillon case gauge.

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Below is the same Lake City 7.62 case in a JP Enterprise case gauge, and this gauge is closer to minimum SAAMI dimensions, meaning smaller in diameter.

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I have different manufacture pistol gauges, in 9mm I have a Midway case gauge and a 7 hole EGW case gauge. And the EGW gauge is smaller in diameter.

Bottom line, I'm loading for 9mm that will be fired in Glocks and Sig pistols and all of them have chambers that can vary in size. And I know that any loaded cartridge that passes a plunk test in the EGW gauge because of its smaller diameter the loaded round will fit in any chamber. The Midway gauge is labeled "Max cartridge gauge" and basically only checks maximum case length and diameter.

Below a pistol case with a proper taper crimp.

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Below a case without a proper taper crimp "BUT" could pass a plop test in larger diameter case gauges.

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On top of this each type barrel will have a max OAL and OAL is always gun & bullet specific, regardless of the reloading data. And why your barrel is the best gauge for "double checking" loaded rounds against your pistol gauge.

And the Lee factory crimp die with a carbide ring in its base will size bulged crimps on the longer cases that you never trim and can hang up in your barrel. ;)
 
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What does finding the max OAL have to do with experimenting with different lengths for accuracy? Way to take a little snippet of my reply and twist the $hit out of it.

I have posted the link for the max OAL many times in the past and said to read Wobbly's postings and look at his illustrations.
You then read the link I posted and turned it into a sticky without giving Wobby credit.
And now you get sore because I'm still posting the same link for Wobbly's work.
This same basic information can be found at the Brian Enos's Forums, and "WHY" they vary the OAL

Bottom line, you posted Wobbly's information on OAL then contradict this very information on "WHY" it is done.

OAL is always gun & bullet specific, regardless of the reloading data and OAL will effect accuracy and pressure.

"WHY" do you think they find the max OAL vs what is in the manuals and then adjust the OAL??????

I meant it was a total fluke that it did anything at all. Changing the OAL for pistol calibres doesn't do anything for accuracy. Shortening the OAL can add a few fps and that's likely the reason you find that particular load desirable. Just out of curiosity, where did you read about loading to touch the the lands on a pistol round? That's a rifle thing so I would be very interested in reading that article or reference if you happen to have it.

9mm Loading Tips
https://www.pennbullets.com/ReloadingTips/9mmLoadingTips.html
'got the 9mm rounds to shoot far more accurately by “tuning the OAL” to his gun."
 
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Whitetail at 10 yards. Mini30. Round was too fat and had not gone in all the way. Bolt not quite closed. Nothing happened when I pulled the trigger.

Should have FL sized the cases.

Oh okay...well your signature says it all about learning from others I guess...
 
I'm done with you...

Cheers.

Next time think twice before insulting someone, that way you won't be caught in the middle of a $hit storm you created.

Who the heck are you to tell me I can't post a direct link to Wobbly's information that you copied.

Now ask yourself "WHY" Wobbly and other competitive shooters experiment with OAL.
 
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What if your bullets are not round? I just threw a few rounds in the Glock. Spins free, than binds, then spins free, than binds. 1.115 OAL, They were 124grn xmetal hi tek.
 
Oh okay...well your signature says it all about learning from others I guess...

Yes. Learn from others. And I am the "other". I have made almost all the mistakes. Learn from me.

Much of the info I share here relates to incidents where I learned the hard way. I have also learned a few things from others.

When i was a pilot, I tried very, very hard to learn my lessons from others.
 
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