How are the Campro rifle rounds?

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I use Campro's 124gr 9mm and have been quite happy with them. My primary concerns with shooting 9mm aren't the same as .223 or .308 though.

Been told that the .223 rounds are great for plinking with an AR, but won't shoot sub-MOA.
500 Campro .223 projectiles for $50 vs 500 Hornady Match .223 for $125 is quite a difference. Would be very nice to save that money.

Has anybody tried the .223 (55gr) or the .308 (147gr) projectiles? If so, what have your results been?
 
mook613 said:
I use Campro's 124gr 9mm and have been quite happy with them. My primary concerns with shooting 9mm aren't the same as .223 or .308 though.

Been told that the .223 rounds are great for plinking with an AR, but won't shoot sub-MOA.
500 Campro .223 projectiles for $50 vs 500 Hornady Match .223 for $125 is quite a difference. Would be very nice to save that money.

Has anybody tried the .223 (55gr) or the .308 (147gr) projectiles? If so, what have your results been?
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.223 Rem 700 5r: Each group is a minimum of 5 rounds. Some are 15-25 rounds.
Campro 55gr FMJBT 1.5 - 3 MOA @ 100m
Hornady 52gr BTHP 0.5 to 1.5MOA @ 100-300m. A gnat farting nearby will blow this lightweight around severely.
Hornady 68gr BTHP 0.5 to 1 MOA @ 100-300m
Sierra 69gr 'SMC' BTHP 0.35 to 0.6 MOA @ 300m
Sierra 69gr 'TMC' BTHP 0.25 to 0.6 MOA @ 300m
Hornady 75gr ELD-M 0.25 to 1.0 MOA @ 300m. I think too heavy for my twist rate = marginally unstable.

I think the rifle is easily good to around 0.25 MOA with high quality home rolled ammo. I'm not. I'm more to the 0.35 to 0.6 MOA side. My son can put together smaller groups than I can on a regular basis. He is more to the 0.25 to 0.45MOA side.

Never bothered to try the Campro 147gr in my .308 based upon the .223 performance.
 
rick357 said:
.223 Rem 700 5r: Each group is a minimum of 5 rounds. Some are 15-25 rounds.
Campro 55gr FMJBT 1.5 - 3 MOA @ 100m
Hornady 52gr BTHP 0.5 to 1.5MOA @ 100-300m. A gnat farting nearby will blow this lightweight around severely.
Hornady 68gr BTHP 0.5 to 1 MOA @ 100-300m
Sierra 69gr 'SMC' BTHP 0.35 to 0.6 MOA @ 300m
Sierra 69gr 'TMC' BTHP 0.25 to 0.6 MOA @ 300m
Hornady 75gr ELD-M 0.25 to 1.0 MOA @ 300m. I think too heavy for my twist rate = marginally unstable.

I think the rifle is easily good to around 0.25 MOA with high quality home rolled ammo. I'm not. I'm more to the 0.35 to 0.6 MOA side. My son can put together smaller groups than I can on a regular basis. He is more to the 0.25 to 0.45MOA side.

Never bothered to try the Campro 147gr in my .308 based upon the .223 performance.
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Excellent data! Thank you for this!
I'm happy that I bought a box of the Hornady Match 68gr but will keep an eye out for the Sierra 69grs to try out.

Will stick with the Match and A-Max for loading 308s
 
I have used Campro 308 bullets and was able to get MOA at 100 yards if I did my part in shooting and loading consistency. As for the 55g 223 been using Berry's Bullets (bulk) not bad does shoot around MOA in my Tikka if I keep it under 100 yards. And, if I reload consistently and shoot consistently. I would give them a shot it will save a few bucks in the end.

I will be shooting 105 rounds tonight at the range using H4895, BL-C(2) and RL15
 
Using the 308 in my 300WSM. I'm not finished developping a load, but on my first try I used IRM4064 and got 0.75-1.0MOA at 100m. That was 3 shots group, not 5. And 100m is not indicative of much tbh, at longer range, the group might open up a lot more than with more expensive bullets.

The market for these bulk bullets is definitely semis that shoot a lot more rounds than the average bolt action. Make hundreds of rounds with a progressive to shoot with a cheap AR and you won't see a difference between bulk and premium. Shoot them through your expensive bolt action and the difference will show up.

I don't think the rifle bullets are made by campros, if I remember correctly they sub-contract to someone else.
 
mook613 said:
Excellent data! Thank you for this!
I'm happy that I bought a box of the Hornady Match 68gr but will keep an eye out for the Sierra 69grs to try out.

Will stick with the Match and A-Max for loading 308s
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Hey, if you are going to be shooting at 100m or less, then give the Campro bullets a try. Just don't buy 500 of them off the get-go and then find out they are not up to snuff. They might do what you need and loading up 100 of them should let you know one way or the other.

If I didn't have about 450 Hornady 68gr left I would only shoot the Sierra 69gr BTHP. Hey, I thought the Hornady 68gr were where I wanted to be and then I tried out Berger and Sierra. I shoot to challenge myself. I don't care about competitions. Some days it seems I just can't miss and others I put away the Sierras, pull out what are now my 68 gr plinkers and shoot at the 1 minute gongs. I really like knowing that it is ME who is shooting extremely well or exceptionally poorly and not the ammo or the rifle I am using.

I should add that I am still working with the 75gr Hornady ELD-M and loading them on the hot end. They seem to work a lot better the faster they go but I have to convince myself that they are going to be consistent, ok pressure and brass-wise, and stable for longer range. Right now I am doing all my work-up at 300m.
 
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rick357 said:
Hey, if you are going to be shooting at 100m or less, then give the Campro bullets a try. Just don't buy 500 of them off the get-go and then find out they are not up to snuff. They might do what you need and loading up 100 of them should let you know one way or the other.
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I would try 100 of them if there was a local store that sold in that quantity. Unfortunately, even though there are several places nearby that carry Campro, they all will only sell a full box.
 
rick357 said:
Hey, if you are going to be shooting at 100m or less, then give the Campro bullets a try. Just don't buy 500 of them off the get-go and then find out they are not up to snuff. They might do what you need and loading up 100 of them should let you know one way or the other.

If I didn't have about 450 Hornady 68gr left I would only shoot the Sierra 69gr BTHP. Hey, I thought the Hornady 68gr were where I wanted to be and then I tried out Berger and Sierra. I shoot to challenge myself. I don't care about competitions. Some days it seems I just can't miss and others I put away the Sierras, pull out what are now my 68 gr plinkers and shoot at the 1 minute gongs. I really like knowing that it is ME who is shooting extremely well or exceptionally poorly and not the ammo or the rifle I am using.

I should add that I am still working with the 75gr Hornady ELD-M and loading them on the hot end. They seem to work a lot better the faster they go but I have to convince myself that they are going to be consistent, ok pressure and brass-wise, and stable for longer range. Right now I am doing all my work-up at 300m.
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They are sold in pack of 500. The 223 are very inexpensive though, like 60$/500.
 
mook613 said:
I would try 100 of them if there was a local store that sold in that quantity. Unfortunately, even though there are several places nearby that carry Campro, they all will only sell a full box.
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Um, sometimes you have to bite the bullet and order them in by mail. If you are testing different bullets, sometimes you end up ordering a hundred each of many different makes, types and weights. Yes, not cheap but, it is the only way to find out what your particular rifle likes.
 
I've used both the 55gr .224" and the 147gr .308".

I don't have a precision .223 rifle and the Campro shoot just as well as VMAX and SMK's in my AR; usually 2-3 MoA. That would appear to be a limitation of the rifle/scope/me.

The 147gr .308 I have tried in several different rifles. My Rem 700 will shoot 1/2 to 3/4 MoA groups all day with the occasional sub-1/2-MoA group but not consistently. That's using 178gr ELD-Match in Lapua brass and Varget.
Using Lapua brass I tried 2-3 different powders with the Campro and couldn't find a load better than 2 MoA in my 700. In another rifle which average 2 MoA with 168gr SMK's they'll shoot 2 MoA (that rifle I think has a meh barrel).
The Hornady 150gr FMJ/BT with a good load can shoot 1 MoA fairly consistently so that's my go-to bullet for cheap but accurate .308 loads.

I bought 1000 Campro and they don't shoot well in my scoped rifles so I just use them in the .30-06 for the Garand since with the peep sights and my bad eyes I don't notice how good or bad the bullet is.
 
Got an average of 1.25MOA out of my AR15 using Campro 223 55gr FMJs. Hornady 55gr FMJ were surprisingly good for plinking pills at 1MOA.
 
I've spent a fair bit of effort trying to get Campro 55gr 224 bullets to group better than about 1.5MOA. I couldn't find any recipe or combination that would do it.

Specific barrels:
Stretch16 16" 223wylde melonite 1/8"
Ruger Precision Rifle 5.56nato 20" melonite 1/7"
 
update to my previous post:
Using Berrys bullets (similar to campro) i found that 25g of RL15 works very well - at 50 yards 90% of my 5 shot groups were about 9/16 of an inch. got to learn how to post picks - was using assorted range brass that I picked up
 
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