FX-9 Canadian Release!

[Adam134]

I hate to say it but within the past year there have been multiple retailers who have set contracts at a certain price, taken a deposit to lock you in at said price, and then when the supplier changes the price they have to change their end of the bargain which ends up only hurting the final buyer. I understand the purpose behind a deposit but at the same time when someone pays a deposit it's to both reserve a product and lock in a price.

I understand people say it's out of a retailers control, but it's also out of the final buyers control as well. Pre-orders without a deposit should be a new option with an approximate price, if the price fluctuates then there's no outrage because people have no money in on something under the idea that they were locked in at that price. At least they're giving the option to back out full refund, but still this pre-order system in Canada has to change. If the price of the product went down, the pre-order price would stay the same to the end user with more profit to the store which in the end means the only perceived risk of paying more is on the end user.

 

[NickVR]

Dude you signed up this month to the forum I doubt you have a rifle on order from the first batch lol

Just so you know people outside of CGN are aware of this rifle as well..

 

[Onagoth]

No doubt, get your deposit back and then sue them for the interest you lost on the $200.00 deposit.

Or sue them and ask the court to oblige them to fulfill the terms of the original agreement. There are different other equitable remedies available at law

 

[Can-down]

Or sue them and ask the court to oblige them to fulfill the terms of the original agreement. There are different other equitable remedies available at law

I'm sure I wouldn't know all the different ways people can sue today, but I'm also sure I won't be suing Wolverine over this.

 

[Onagoth]

I'm sure I wouldn't know all the different ways people can sue today, but I'm also sure I won't be suing Wolverine over this.

Well I’m not a lawyer but I have taken several law courses in a professional capacity. This seems like breach of contract to me and one of the remedies available is a court order requiring Wolverine to fulfill the original terms of their agreement.

The last time I preordered from them, there was no clause whatsoever in that sales agreement allowing them to modify the price after the fact. But I’m glad I’m not in this mess this time around

 

[benwilliam]

I received a phone call today from Wolverine, I'm very high on the pre-order list. I said I'd keep my pre-order and said thank you.

If one were so inclined:
1. you could buy a restricted version with a 16" barrel from classic firearms for $649.99
2. Use a 1.32 USD exchange multiplier and you get $857.99 CAD
3. Take $857.99 and add $150 import fee from a company who is not on cgn and imports (think the people who lived in Mexico before the Spanish came along then add something to do with an arm and a ry)
4. Total $1007.99 ....add shipping from Classic Firearms to FFL, add tax as needed.
5. Realize that even at $649.99 USD in the states, a CAD price of $1049.99 still gets you the firearm cheaper...(and NON-restricted)...vs any variation of importation an individual could utilize.

Price increase is unfortunate, not seeing the US price's increase is unfortunate, not getting the 2 17/rd mags and a 33rd mag is unfortunate, not getting the Aim sports red/green dot sight is unfortunate.

If Wolverine were so inclined (to assuage their customers concerns) I would suggest that if US dealers can offer this firearm with 3 mags and a red dot...maybe there's something CAD customers could receive...my suggestion, substitute the single mag for a single glock 33/10 mag...(US versions come with the 33 rd glock style mags plus the two 17 rd mags). It's not much, but it's something of an olive branch.

 

[sonofvarmint]

Seriously guys, the dudes at Wolverine are some of if not the most innovative and professional firearm people in Canada. Absolutely 100% respect for them despite this disappointing turn.

 

[Fastxr]

Seriously guys, the dudes at Wolverine are some of if not the most innovative and professional firearm people in Canada. Absolutely 100% respect for them despite this disappointing turn.

I have nothing but respect for Wolverine I do not believe this issue is anything that Wolverine has caused, what I dislike is seemingly US companies taking advantage of Canadian orders and jerking us around. Maybe there is more going on here than I know but as I previously mentioned if F.O. had any intention of having these rifles ready near the initial estimation then material cost increases should not have been an issue.

 

[Forester1986]

Wolverine is awesome, and I’ll be keeping my pre-order, but it could be a nice gesture to those with pre-orders to offer a nice vortex red dot “at cost.” They obviously don’t have to, but I wouldn’t complain

 

[P90rippin]

It may be time at a minimum to not buy any more tariff/national taxed products from the US. Everyone should cancel the orders and send a clear message to Americans and let them deal with their elected circus.

 

[Rain112]

It may be time at a minimum to not buy any more tariff/national taxed products from the US. Everyone should cancel the orders and send a clear message to Americans and let them deal with their elected circus.

Why is it ok for Canada to impose a 35% tariff on steel but U.S can’t impose a 25% tariff in response. It is what it is, until we get some leaders in this country that can negotiate.

 

[P90rippin]

As much as I think our current federal government is insidious, this item is 100% because of the current US federal government.

 

[Ironheart]

I'm not on the pre order list but will be buying one of these straight up when they land, regardless of price increase

 

[Wiskey1]

Well I’m not a lawyer but I have taken several law courses in a professional capacity. This seems like breach of contract to me and one of the remedies available is a court order requiring Wolverine to fulfill the original terms of their agreement.

The last time I preordered from them, there was no clause whatsoever in that sales agreement allowing them to modify the price after the fact. But I’m glad I’m not in this mess this time around

cool your jets friend,nobody is suing Wolverine over this dumb toy,take a pill relax,cancel your order,put it towards something else,something netter like the Ruger PC9,Wolverine might even swap your deposit over to one of those even,and cops wont give you a second look when you're playing in the field,good luck with that with the FX9

 

[Wiskey1]

Why is it ok for Canada to impose a 35% tariff on steel but U.S can’t impose a 25% tariff in response. It is what it is, until we get some leaders in this country that can negotiate.

you got it,,but most canadians just react and throw a tantrum,NEVER nothering to go look at tariffs that CANADA imposes on US goods,and NOW that the US is finally waking up and protecting THEIR TRADE,sensitive Canadians are in an uproar,Canada has been doing this kind of horse#### for decades,and NOW their being called on it,you want free trade,it has to go BOTH ways,but with Liberal morons running the country,nothing good will ever happen until they get ####canned just like Ontario just destroyed the Liberal party,why is it that US citizens can come into Canada,buy $1500.00 worth and declare it at their border and pay ZERO fees,but a Canadian goes to the US and gets nailed for every dollar Canada can rip off of you,and then they get in a tizzy because so many people are smuggling in tons of goods and they're upset they're loosing revenue,

 

[William_mississauga]

Wolverine thanks for the the call to update me on the problem. These things happen and apreachate being given the option
To withdraw from preorder with full refund. It still looks like a great rifle and look forward to shooting it.

 

[Ironheart]

you got it,,but most canadians just react and throw a tantrum,NEVER nothering to go look at tariffs that CANADA imposes on US goods,and NOW that the US is finally waking up and protecting THEIR TRADE,sensitive Canadians are in an uproar,Canada has been doing this kind of horse#### for decades,and NOW their being called on it,you want free trade,it has to go BOTH ways,but with Liberal morons running the country,nothing good will ever happen until they get ####canned just like Ontario just destroyed the Liberal party,why is it that US citizens can come into Canada,buy $1500.00 worth and declare it at their border and pay ZERO fees,but a Canadian goes to the US and gets nailed for every dollar Canada can rip off of you,and then they get in a tizzy because so many people are smuggling in tons of goods and they're upset they're loosing revenue,

this is unreal......it blows my mind

 

[Wiskey1]

this is unreal......it blows my mind

what i mean is,Canadians go into the US and purchase goods,and get nailed coming back in with taxes and duties,unless you've been away 9 days and then you get a exemption on $900.00,a US citizen comes into Canada and purchases $1500.00 worth of goods,goes home the same day and pays NOTHING, basicaly the US doesn't mind their citizens cross border shopping,but the protectionists in Canada want to discourage us from shopping in the US as much as possible,and you wonder why the US is finally waking up,what if the US decided to do the same ####ty thing to their cross border shoppers as Canada does,how much revenue do you thing Canadian retailers would loose,i would be nice for both countries to use the same system,make it fair for both sides,that's all i meant by that,

 

[Curtis264]

what i mean is,Canadians go into the US and purchase goods,and get nailed coming back in with taxes and duties,unless you've been away 9 days and then you get a exemption on $900.00,

Just to be correct after 48 hours we have an exemption of 800.00 per person

 

[Billabong]

I really don't see a problem here. If $150 means so much to you, then you probably should not be buying the gun in the first place but spending that money on rent or food or whatever else you need. I mean, come on...it is a lousy $150! You spend that on dinner at a restaurant. If that $150 is actually that important to you, then just ask them to refund your deposit and buy a cheaper gun. No reason to cry and whine about it.