Building the Best Canadian Made Pistol Carbine (Non-Restricted!)

lockharttactical said:
We're combining, sought after features, artistic design, and affordability.
Yes, it is an expensive risk. We count on the support of Canadian firearm owners to see that we're doing our best to be on your side. Providing you the best services as we can. Not every business has endless bank accounts. Some of us, are just doing our best to be team players.

The government is the government. I could bang my head on a wall for the next 120 years and still have enough frustration to keep going... However as a business, we can't let them hold us back. The Raven will live.

As for a crap shoot? The biggest crap shoot, is the "community".
How many people out of 2M+ firearm owners have stood up again C71??????

The "community" as a whole is a joke, which I find more frustrating in itself that the joke of a government we have "looking after us".

To be honest, who cares if some "special minded" liberal gets visited by the bright idea fairy while they are trying to figure out how to dress themselves, and thinks they need to tighten firearm ownership... Fair enough! Bigger mistakes have happened. Case in point.. our current PM's birth.

If they can propose the dumbest S#*@, that a 3rd grader could figure out is useless.... then we should be proposing legalizing silencers, open carry, abolishing the useless "restricted" program and the likes.

The problem isn't THEM. They will always exist The problem is US. Where are we? Who's holding the line against these guys?

https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-1608
80,832 signatures as of 22 JUN 18.

Are you kidddddddinggg me????? 4% of us?


***Keyboard mashing stops***

Don't any of you dare read this and try to turn this into us not being a supporter of the community.
We need to give our heads a shake though and stop thinking we're the victims. We have the power to change it. Be part of the change team, not the couch potato, b*tch all day and do nothing team.

Also... we're very excited for the Raven, and we'll be working around the clock when it gets approved.
Sleeping is for the dead... right?
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lockharttactical said:
We're combining, sought after features, artistic design, and affordability.
Yes, it is an expensive risk. We count on the support of Canadian firearm owners to see that we're doing our best to be on your side. Providing you the best services as we can. Not every business has endless bank accounts. Some of us, are just doing our best to be team players.

The government is the government. I could bang my head on a wall for the next 120 years and still have enough frustration to keep going... However as a business, we can't let them hold us back. The Raven will live.

As for a crap shoot? The biggest crap shoot, is the "community".
How many people out of 2M+ firearm owners have stood up again C71??????

The "community" as a whole is a joke, which I find more frustrating in itself that the joke of a government we have "looking after us".

To be honest, who cares if some "special minded" liberal gets visited by the bright idea fairy while they are trying to figure out how to dress themselves, and thinks they need to tighten firearm ownership... Fair enough! Bigger mistakes have happened. Case in point.. our current PM's birth.

If they can propose the dumbest S#*@, that a 3rd grader could figure out is useless.... then we should be proposing legalizing silencers, open carry, abolishing the useless "restricted" program and the likes.

The problem isn't THEM. They will always exist The problem is US. Where are we? Who's holding the line against these guys?

https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-1608
80,832 signatures as of 22 JUN 18.

Are you kidddddddinggg me????? 4% of us?


***Keyboard mashing stops***

Don't any of you dare read this and try to turn this into us not being a supporter of the community.
We need to give our heads a shake though and stop thinking we're the victims. We have the power to change it. Be part of the change team, not the couch potato, b*tch all day and do nothing team.

Also... we're very excited for the Raven, and we'll be working around the clock when it gets approved.
Sleeping is for the dead... right?
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So.... any news on the Raven?
Have you finalized the design? Do you have a final design unit built and tested?
 
P90rippin said:
Hi, just wondering on if the initial cost estimate is still good regardless of the paperwork and red tape delays? Thanks!
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Our price will hold firm. We are going to be as affordable and include everything we promised :)

Rest assured, we are working hard to get this project underway.

We reply on all you good people in the community to keep us going.
 
I ran through and answered all the questions...and then noticed that the original post was from last year and that the gun is already finalized. :)

Looking forward to seeing these become available. I've had a couple of CX4 Storms, and a bunch of other 9mm PCC's...and am back to owning just a single Beretta. The Raven looks like a must-try.
 
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lockharttactical said:
Our price will hold firm. We are going to be as affordable and include everything we promised :)

Rest assured, we are working hard to get this project underway.

We reply on all you good people in the community to keep us going.
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No offense but you still haven't replied to my rather basic questions 4 posts up, posted almost a month ago...... :)
 
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A lightweight, side-charging, single-side-ejecting gun, that absolutely MUST be a take-down, would have my money immediately. The less it looks like an AR, the better.
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Sounds like you need to look at the PC-9, if you don't want it AR'ish
 
Can-down said:
Sounds like you need to look at the PC-9, if you don't want it AR'ish
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The PC9 vies with the Ruger Scout for the title of Ugliest Gun Of All Time, IMHO. :) Not so-funky-it's-almost-cute ugly, not ugly-but-utilitarian...just plain butt ugly.

I'm tired of AR-lookalikes, but I'd take one in a heartbeat over the PC9.
 
jjohnwm said:
The PC9 vies with the Ruger Scout for the title of Ugliest Gun Of All Time, IMHO. :) Not so-funky-it's-almost-cute ugly, not ugly-but-utilitarian...just plain butt ugly.

I'm tired of AR-lookalikes, but I'd take one in a heartbeat over the PC9.
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lockharttactical said:
We're proud to showcase the RAVEN 9 tool-less, quick detach handguard!

Why is it quick release?
We've engineered the handguard to work seamlessly with the RAVEN 9's quick detach barrel system allowing you to store or transport your favorite carbine in the smallest spaces.

How heavy is our handguard?
Our 12" full top rail version weight is around 0.4lbs

What size options are available?
We plan to release an 8", 12" and 16" model

How do side and bottom rails attach?
You can attach additional picatinny rails on the 3, 6 and 9 o'clock positions. Our handguard allows for bolting on rails via strategically placed tapped holes, or attach M-LOK rails. The choice is yours!

Cost?
Under $200 is the plan.
We want to provide incredible value in everything we do!

Feature List:
- Seamless Full Top Rail
- Matches Our Receivers Perfectly
- Weight: 0.4 LBS (12" Model)
- Tool-Less Quick Release
- High Quality Aluminum
- Machined in Canada
- 4x Integrated Quick Release Sling Studs

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I just came across this the morning.

I want one. Heres another thread for me to follow!
 
Why not do like a couple of the other Canadian manufacturers have done and just start building them?????

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Here are the questions we ask:

Q1) Is an ambidextrous ejection port important to you when buying a firearm?
We want to ensure we have the features that most want, while keeping the cost as low as possible
Option 1: I only buy firearms that are capable of ejection on both sides


Q2) Is an ambidextrous charging handle important?
Option 1: I only buy firearms that are capable of ambi charging


Q3) Do you prefer side charging handles or an AR15 style charging handle?
Either is fine

Q4) Does "Take Down" matter? Do you care if you can separate the rifle easily to make it more compact?
We plan on developing a 1 second, tool-less twist lock release that separates the Barrel and hand guard together as one piece from the receiver Allowing super compact storage, and easy cleaning
Option 2: I wouldn't ever, or very rarely use that feature

Q5) Does weight matter to you?
Of course we want to make everything as lightweight as possible, but we want to know how much it matters to you.
Option 1: Yes, I want everything to be as lightweight as possible


Q6) Weight Savings - Would you pay slightly more to save more weight?
Option 1: Pay more for better lighter materials


Q7) What kind of barrel? We want to build the best rifle package at the most competitive price possible.
We feel that most companies uses cheap barrels. We want to use the best. If we can include a Carbon Fiber, SS barrel at NO ADDITIONAL COST to you, would you want that? Or prefer just regular steel, or SS?
Lifetime warranty on the barrel! and our Firearm!
Blues lightweight barrel


Q8) What kind of forend / handguard?
Option 2: I only need a top and bottom rail


Q9) Do you care if firearms are made in Canada?
Option 1: Yes! I support Canadian Business - If price is fair


Q10) Price Point - What price do you think would be fair for an incredible Canadian made Non-Restricted firearm like this

Option 2: 1000-1300
 
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