No Ragrets

kamlooky said:
Norinco.
I will never own a piece of chit like this again.
Yuck.
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I'm pigheaded. Bought one; put all the shots in one hole, fed perfect... rear sight kept moving; way to loose in the dovetail. Called the dealer, he swapped me for a new one (Bullseye; great customer service); this one also all shots in the same hole, however could not drift the rear sigh far enough to get it to shot to center (windage); dovetail was half way out of the slot. Called Bell Outdoors, they had me send it to their gunsmith; he came to the same conclusion. They sent him a new rifle to try out; same issue. They sent him six rifles, he found one with a straight barrel; he sent it to me. They do make the odd JW15 that works well.

On the other hand, they make another .22 branded Scorpio (I bought one a while back) I've been told they are built on Anschutz tooling... they shoot like it!!! Barrel needed bedded, but a real laser-beam, nice finish, and smooth, short action! A friend bought one on my advice, and his experience is the same. Does it ever shoot!

I have two inexpensive rifles that regularly compete with a lot more expensive stuff, and they shoot amazing!

Another friend has a Ruger 1022 which also shoots amazing; but it put over $1000.00 of aftermaket components, and refinements into it to make it shoot. For that kind of money buy a basic anschutz.
 
Gunoholic said:
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A lowly Marlin 60SS for 1/4 the money is 3 times as accurate.
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Some day, I will buy one. They are the nicest looking of all the .22 rifles available off the shelf right now IMO. I have two rifles with tube mags, and don't shoot them much; but both are great shooters (antique Winchester pump, and Remington Nylon 66).

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I have a 10/22 that I bought used from a friend that had already done pretty much every upgrade he could to it. At anything under 60 yards i can put as many rounds through a half in grouping as I want. Only times it gives an issue is aftermarket magazines and shooting the cheapest bulk ammo will give one feeding issue in about 100 rounds.
 
There are many good .22's out there that can be had for less than $500 and most can be easily resold. Point being, it's not a huge decision so just pick one that looks good to you and start from there. If you're not happy simply sell it and try another.


With so many options for a 22lr it's highly unlikely that the first one you buy will be "the one" for you....
 
kamlooky said:
Norinco.
I will never own a piece of chit like this again.
Yuck.
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I'll never buy one of the mentioned brand firearms.
Just because of the stolen intellectual property that company has shown in their firearms line-up.
Dont get me wrong the world conducts business with China on a daily basis, but clearly there are lots of items that are copy cat and thus
I personally will not conduct business with them or their likes.
Rob
 
Each to their own, I buy a firearm because I like it ,not because of where it was made.That rationale could apply to refusing to buy a milsurp used in combat against us.Norinco is not collector grade but serves as fine shooters.My JW15 short barrel is a fine grouse gun and as accurate as the BRNO but for a fraction of the price.Japan showed the world what good glass looked like...and they were the master at ‘stolen intellectual property’,they copied our stuff and did it better...
 
I sold my first Norinco NS522 bolt gun.. regretted that, bought a other one after having a Savage fvsr and a CZ 455, only .22 bolt guns I have now are the Norinco and an Anschutz.
Some people have some real hate for china, but Ill tell you who makes a real piece of crap rifle is Mossberg...
 
.22LRGUY said:
^likewise. If memory serves...I've had maybe 4 rimfires with tube mags over the years. All gone, and not welcome back. lol
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Nothing quite like a design where slipping during loading will cause magazine parts to fly across the firing line.

Plus, most guns with tube mags have mags that extend almost all the way to the muzzle. Having to bring your hand in front of the muzzle as part of the reloading process is in my eyes a definite design flaw.
 
chanman said:
Nothing quite like a design where slipping during loading will cause magazine parts to fly across the firing line.

Plus, most guns with tube mags have mags that extend almost all the way to the muzzle. Having to bring your hand in front of the muzzle as part of the reloading process is in my eyes a definite design flaw.
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Prove the gun safe before reloading, like all firearms should be. On the pistol range at our club, it is standard practise to open the action, inspect that the chamber is empty, and look down the barrel for obstructions.
Nowadays people don't seem to want to take responsibility for their actions, and rely on others to make things safe for them.
Pointing a firearm at yourself or others, for any reason, that hasn't been proven safe, should never happen.
 
trebor2880 said:
Prove the gun safe before reloading, like all firearms should be. On the pistol range at our club, it is standard practise to open the action, inspect that the chamber is empty, and look down the barrel for obstructions.
Nowadays people don't seem to want to take responsibility for their actions, and rely on others to make things safe for them.
Pointing a firearm at yourself or others, for any reason, that hasn't been proven safe, should never happen.
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With a tube mag, it's more POVE than PROVE. On a related note, the listed mag capacity is for loading with the action closed. If the action is open, capacity is reduced by one because of the shell lifter.
 
chanman said:
Nothing quite like a design where slipping during loading will cause magazine parts to fly across the firing line.

Plus, most guns with tube mags have mags that extend almost all the way to the muzzle. Having to bring your hand in front of the muzzle as part of the reloading process is in my eyes a definite design flaw.
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An empty gun is an empty gun if you can't trust yourself to make sure it's empty maybe you shouldn't have guns to begin with. Nobody ever wants to brake accountability for themselves these days, I personally don't mind tube mags and McDonald's straw with a paper clip make for great speed loaders.
 
I love my savage MK II.

My buddies 10/22 is finicky at best. He likes it but IMO it's an unreliable money pit. The platform itself at least has potential, just takes too much time and effort if you don't get lucky with a reliable one for my taste.

My other buddy has a mossberg plinkster. Got a good deal for a used one... The 25rd magazine only holds like 18rds, the gun is a jam o matic and the sights are garbage. Worst gun I've ever shot. Almost bought my own cause they were on sale for $160 but couldn't bring myself to it.
 
I regret not buying a 10/22, savage mark II with big scope, and a marlin 39m as my first 3 rimfires!
Probably had over 40 different 22’s since i started and these are the models I kept. It has been fun though, buy used and save!
BTW your post is spelled wrong!
 
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I really like the 10-22, at least the one I got. Bought it as a synthetic stocked Stainless so my young son and I would have something to use at camp. Worked and shot quite well. As the years went by and he grew I did the mods to it. Thumb hole stock, thicker barrel and upgraded trigger. Shoots very well and as long as I don't shoot heavily greased fodder it rarely fails. I'm surprised at the number of people having problems with the 10-22s. The guys I know really like them. BB
 
chanman said:
With a tube mag, it's more POVE than PROVE. On a related note, the listed mag capacity is for loading with the action closed. If the action is open, capacity is reduced by one because of the shell lifter.
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What's more important? An extra shot, or somebody's life.
 
FLHTCUI said:
I'll never buy one of the mentioned brand firearms.
Just because of the stolen intellectual property that company has shown in their firearms line-up.
Dont get me wrong the world conducts business with China on a daily basis, but clearly there are lots of items that are copy cat and thus
I personally will not conduct business with them or their likes.
Rob
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Many others do this, it’s not stolen property. Patents expire after 20 years. Just look at the huge variety of Remington 700, Mauser 98, Ar and 1022 clones are out there.
 
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