G19X is HERE!!!!

mebiuspower said:
The MHS requirement changed multiple times during the course of selection. There were multiple versions submitted by all the manufacturers. As you realized the Sig MHS gun is optic ready, so Glock would've submitted a MOS version as well.

FN America confirmed with me that their MHS submission was also optic ready, yet the 509 pistol based on the MHS pistol is not.
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FN has released a 509 tactical in FDE and it's optics ready. It will cost you $1139 Canadian. Yes it's available right now.

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1747843-(NEW)-FN-509-Tactical?highlight=fn+509

mebiuspower said:
Basically yeah.

IMO if I were to shop for a new pistol today I'd get an optic-ready model.
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Optics ready would be preferable. But $650 with the Shield program glock 19X vs $1139 for the FN. I'll rough it with iron sights for a few more years.
 
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Epoxy7 said:
FN has released a 509 tactical in FDE and it's optics ready. It will cost you $1139 Canadian. Yes it's available right now.
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Except the FN 509 Tactical's optic mounting system is not the same as their MHS submission. In fact, it's an evolution of it.

Sure, there are people that collect Glocks. I'm sure there are people that collects hammers too.

As far as G19x collectibility goes, it's basically nill.
 
mebiuspower said:
Except the FN 509 Tactical's optic mounting system is not the same as their MHS submission. In fact, it's an evolution of it.

Sure, there are people that collect Glocks. I'm sure there are people that collects hammers too.

As far as G19x collectibility goes, it's basically nill.
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1) I agree and even already stated that the g19x has zero collectibility. I only pointed out that some collect glocks and that was the reason they likely wanted the manual safety. Full stop.
2) you stated if you were buying a pistol today it would be optics ready. The fN is now available as a comparable to this g19x and is optics ready. I was just pointing out that it’s $1139 vs $800.

I could care less if either of these are full versions of the competition models. I just wanted the 19x and don’t care if it was in the competition or that it had a manual safety for the competition. I prefer it without. Again I agree it has zero collectibility.

Please stop trying to create or win an argument that doesn’t exist.
 
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Epoxy7 said:
1) I agree and even already stated that the g19x has zero collectibility. I only pointed out that some collect glocks and that was the reason they likely wanted the manual safety. Full stop.
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Based on some stuff I've seen in recent years, I wouldn't doubt the "Canadian" 19's will be considered collectible down the road.
 
why im kinda excited about the 19X.

i currently have 3 Glocks.
while im not a full blown fanboy of the Glocks - in fact im a M&P card carrying fanboy - i do recognize that they are super reliable and easy to shoot.
so over the years ive picked up a 17C and a 19TB and a 40 (10mm long barreled goodness!)

but i have the same complaint with all of them....
i hate the finger grooves and i dont care for the fact that they are not ambi as im a left handed shooter.
not deal breakers but something that would certainly let me enjoy shooting the pistols a bit more.

so when the Gen5 came out and they removed the finger groves and they made the slide drop ambi i was like "yes, yes im in for that!"
but i do enjoy my 17C and i decided i would wait a bit and get a Gen5 in the 17C.
ive been waiting a while now, still no 17C in the Gen5.

so i was sitting looking at my 17C and my 19TB and i thought to myself.... maybe i should wait for a Gen5 19, as i really do like the size of the 19.

and of course we have not seen a Gen5 19 with complaint barrel up here yet....

so then the 19X came around.
finger grooves.... nope.
ambi slide..... yup.
a mix of 17 and 19 top and bottom.... yup.
unique color.... yup.
get a bunch off the price do to the IOP.... hell's ya!

so it looked to be a perfect fit for what i was looking for!
time will tell i guess but i do have high hopes for it!

just my little $0.02 when people ask why anyone would buy a 19X.
 
wayupnorth said:
why im kinda excited about the 19X.

i currently have 3 Glocks.
while im not a full blown fanboy of the Glocks - in fact im a M&P card carrying fanboy - i do recognize that they are super reliable and easy to shoot.
so over the years ive picked up a 17C and a 19TB and a 40 (10mm long barreled goodness!)

but i have the same complaint with all of them....
i hate the finger grooves and i dont care for the fact that they are not ambi as im a left handed shooter.
not deal breakers but something that would certainly let me enjoy shooting the pistols a bit more.
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Not trying to be a d*ck. Have you taken any professional training? I ask because all pistols are ambi if you apply a different and more universal technique to your manual of arms. The slide lock on Glock pistols was never intended to be used as a slide release. Note which way the serrations are oriented. And if you're not competing then it really doesn't matter at all.
 
i just like to drop my slide with the slide release.
im sure if i was competing or using my pistol in any kind of work where my life depended on it id then rack'n tap but i just shoot for pleasure and sport, hence having an ambi slide drop is a nice thing.
 
AB_blaster said:
Not trying to be a d*ck. Have you taken any professional training? I ask because all pistols are ambi if you apply a different and more universal technique to your manual of arms. The slide lock on Glock pistols was never intended to be used as a slide release. Note which way the serrations are oriented. And if you're not competing then it really doesn't matter at all.
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I don't want to be a d*ck either but it is a slide release on the Glock, it was designed to be used as a slide release, there is no other use for it. The Gen 5 release is a little larger and a lot more useful. Bob Vogel, a world champion IPSC Production and IDPA shooter, uses the slide release on his Glock 17/34's in competition because hitting the slide release is faster and he says so in his videos. Doesn't look near as tacticool as the sling shot method but is is faster. Your Universe is not as large as you think.

For the doomsday zombie crowd faster might mean you live another day.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
I don't want to be a d*ck either but it is a slide release on the Glock, it was designed to be used as a slide release, there is no other use for it. The Gen 5 release is a little larger and a lot more useful. Bob Vogel, a world champion IPSC Production and IDPA shooter, uses the slide release on his Glock 17/34's in competition because hitting the slide release is faster and he says so in his videos. Doesn't look near as tacticool as the sling shot method but is is faster. Your Universe is not as large as you think.

For the doomsday zombie crowd faster might mean you live another day.

Take Care

Bob
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The slingshot is good training (slide does not always lock open, due to high grip riding overtop of the slide release, dud ammo, etc) but certainly the slide release would be faster in a perfect world
 
eatredmeat157 said:
The slingshot is good training (slide does not always lock open, due to high grip riding overtop of the slide release, dud ammo, etc) but certainly the slide release would be faster in a perfect world
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When doing a reload, failing the auto release accomplished by slamming the mag home, the slide release is the next fastest. I know folks who do a little creative polishing on the internals of the slide release to accomplish the auto feature. As as aside I have seen two hands get filled with brass using the sling shot method when the palm covered the breach and an exiting live round fell back into the chamber , the rear of the cartridge ie primer hit the ejector and the cartridge went off. I hate it when shooters use the overhand method to draw the slide back when I give them the unload and show clear command. It is so cool but puts my eyes in the direct path of exiting pieces of brass if the events as I describe occur. Please don't tell me it is just a case of more training in keeping your weak hand away from the chamber. I experienced shooters cover the breach with their weak hand then claim their hand was no where near the breach.

Sorry for the drift. Back to waiting for the Glock 19.

Take Care

Bob
 
Canuck44 said:
I don't want to be a d*ck either but it is a slide release on the Glock, it was designed to be used as a slide release, there is no other use for it. The Gen 5 release is a little larger and a lot more useful. Bob Vogel, a world champion IPSC Production and IDPA shooter, uses the slide release on his Glock 17/34's in competition because hitting the slide release is faster and he says so in his videos. Doesn't look near as tacticool as the sling shot method but is is faster. Your Universe is not as large as you think.

For the doomsday zombie crowd faster might mean you live another day.

Take Care

Bob
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it's not a release Bob, it's a slide lock. It must lock the slide to the rear before it can ever be considered a slide release. Look at the serrations, they're setup like roof shingles which means pressing down provides no additional traction. Pressing up goes against the "grain" and provides more(albeit pathetically more) traction. There's a reason the slide lock is so small, an intentional design feature to encourage shooters to NOT use it as a slide release.

I don't give two sh*ts what Vogel does, he's a competitive shooter looking to beat the clock. His method also relies entirely on the slide locking to the rear which depends on a properly working magazine and not riding the slide lock with your grip. Using the slide to charge the pistol is guaranteed 100% of the time. Grabbing he slide is a gross motor skill and it works on all semi auto handguns. It's also the same skill used for a type 1 or type 2 malfunction..

At the end of the day no match or gunfight was ever won by the 1/10 of second you saved on a reload. Only hits count, so focus on being a better shooter and stop worrying about the minutiae that make little to zero difference.

eatredmeat157 said:
The slingshot is good training (slide does not always lock open, due to high grip riding overtop of the slide release, dud ammo, etc) but certainly the slide release would be faster in a perfect world
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Precisely.

Canuck44 said:
When doing a reload, failing the auto release accomplished by slamming the mag home, the slide release is the next fastest. I know folks who do a little creative polishing on the internals of the slide release to accomplish the auto feature. As as aside I have seen two hands get filled with brass using the sling shot method when the palm covered the breach and an exiting live round fell back into the chamber , the rear of the cartridge ie primer hit the ejector and the cartridge went off. I hate it when shooters use the overhand method to draw the slide back when I give them the unload and show clear command. It is so cool but puts my eyes in the direct path of exiting pieces of brass if the events as I describe occur. Please don't tell me it is just a case of more training in keeping your weak hand away from the chamber. I experienced shooters cover the breach with their weak hand then claim their hand was no where near the breach.

Sorry for the drift. Back to waiting for the Glock 19.

Take Care

Bob
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Rounds detonating outside the chamber are not as harmful as you let on. They're fire crackers and practically harmless. And yes, covering the E port is a training issue, just like putting your finger on the trigger is a training issue. Experienced shooters does not always equal smart or well trained. I've watched plenty of "experienced" shooters do really stupid sh*t and even more do things that are just not advantageous at all. I've never used the slide lock and I still seem to out shoot all the go fast race gunners at my 3 gun matches, weird....
 
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