Israeli 7.62 family outing

kjohn

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I still have 3 Israeli 98's in 7.62 Nato. So, I thought maybe I'd take them out to my buddy's range for a little picnic. I fired off about 30 rounds of Norinco copper washed bulk ammo. Wacked the gong at 100 yds a few times, once I got them ranged in, plus did a bit of paper work at approx. 40 yds. They didn't group quite in the Olympic class, but it may have been the operator. :p

They don't feed all that well if you try to baby them. They will feed if you show them who's boss. I have shot the light coloured one a few times. Interesting is the differences in the floor plates, trigger guards, band retainers, etc.

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The one I have likes it a bit rough as well. It has metal wear on the receiver from the bolt and a bit on the follower. Its my new favourite Milsurp type rifle. I found an Israeli FN .22 trainer in near perfect condition at the last big HACS show and have another 7.62x51 enroute from another CGN member( pictures look promising). Does all of yours have the same ladder site and blade width for the front post kjohn? Thanks for the pictures, sir.
 
cruddie said:
The one I have likes it a bit rough as well. It has metal wear on the receiver from the bolt and a bit on the follower. Its my new favourite Milsurp type rifle. I found an Israeli FN .22 trainer in near perfect condition at the last big HACS show and have another 7.62x51 enroute from another CGN member( pictures look promising). Does all of yours have the same ladder site and blade width for the front post kjohn? Thanks for the pictures, sir.
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How much did you pay for FN 22 trainer??
 
cornelunc said:
How much did you pay for FN 22 trainer??
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It was $900 and he had two to choice from. I took the one with the nicest metal. The other one had a 9.5 stock with 9 metal( it was new just not as clean). The one picked was 9.5 metal 9.0 stock. Both had been fired but not very much.
 
kjohn, nice rifles.

I had two of the 7.62 98s until last fall.

One was and swp 45 with a laminated stock, all stamped parts and not a bit of finish left on any visible surface of metal or wood. It was obviously a rifle put together from boxes of parts the Israeli's had somehow procured.

The only numbers that matched were the force matched bolt handle and the receiver. None of the Nazi marks had been scrubbed and the only thing to indicate it was Israeli was the Star of David stamp just above the serial number.

There was the standard huge 7.62 carved out of the top of the receiver and on top of the buttstock.

Whoever the young fellow was that bought that rifle, loved the been there, done that look and the sharp, shiny bore. That rifle had a .3075 bore and shot everything exceptionally well, from commercial 308Win to surplus 7.62 Nato. It was clattery and sloppy but fed well no matter how fumble fingered you were. It didn't care if you eased the cartridge into position or slammed it in. It extracted everything flawlessly.

I had some real concerns about selling it.

The other rifle looks more like your top rifle and still has the Rampant Lion Crest from pre war Czechoslovakia. Walnut stock. It has the same heavy 7.62 gougings in the receiver and top of buttstock. Up until this spring, it was still wrapped in brown grease paper and slathered in grease. After cleaning it and degreasing it as much as possible, it made a range trip. The rifle actually looked like it had not only been rebarreled but put back together carefully. The numbers match on everything but the floorplate on the triggerguard. The bore is perfect.

It shoots acceptably but not nearly as well as the one I sold and it needs to be fed with a heavy hand to feed properly. A little stringent stoning of the inside of the extractor lip should eliminate the feeding issues. Hopefully.

These are great rifles. They've been used all over Europe and parts of Asia, Africa and then the Middle East in Israel. They are loaded with history and a testament to their designers as far as affordable functionality and quality.

Thanx for showing them to us.


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nowarningshot said:
Interesting seeing the stampings. Some over obvious grinding. Grind off the dirty bird, rebarrel and use to defend the jewish state.

Somewhere in Argentina, Hitler is rolling over in his grave.
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Likely the even worms wouldn't eat that murdering BLEEP.
 
nowarningshot said:
Interesting seeing the stampings. Some over obvious grinding. Grind off the dirty bird, rebarrel and use to defend the jewish state.

Somewhere in Argentina, Hitler is rolling over in his grave.
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It's interesting in that neither of the ones ground are German or would have had German proofs so I'm not sure what they were trying to remove/hide. For whatever reason a lot of the Czech, post war produced K98k's like these two, had receiver markings ground off. I've read to hide the origin of manufacture but in most cases it's pretty obvious where/when they were made even with the crests removed so I don't know how true that is.
 
I have to find the time to add photos to this thread.
I have several Israeli Mausers too, including an FN manufactured early 50ies which is like new.

I still like the German ones best, which have the swastika peened and a Star of David added.
If some of those could talk.
 
I have a beautiful Czech example in a beech stock. Shoots extremely well. Also managed to find the proper Israeli bayonet to go with it. (No scabbard)
 
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