Winchester 94, replacement for junk internals on newer era guns?

.223Rem

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Hi all,

I have a very nice model 94 that I got from my Grandfather years ago. It's in very good condition and I always loved shooting it when I was younger but I stopped once I read that these have crappy internals that tend to break. The gun is a 1967 centennial edition. Now I have a son who I plan to give this rifle to, but I'd like for him to be able to shoot and enjoy it with out worry.

Is there any place to buy replacement or aftermarket parts to replace the crappy stamped tin ones that are in my gun? I know it's not worth much so I'm not worried about collector value. I'd just like to be able to enjoy this beautiful rifle again, and then one day take it out with my son.

Thanks for any help.
 
Compatibility's going to be the big issue with this. Pretty safe to say guts from pre-64 guns likely won't fit - the 1964 redesign was substantial.

According to Renneberg (Winchester Model 94 - a Century of Craftsmanship) the post-64 redesign ran for some time - until 1978 and the introduction of the "fourth model". That's serial numbers c.2,700,000 to 4,600,000. The initial post-64 rattleguns came to an end with c. 3,400,000, in 1968/69. Tighter fit, better final QC, redesigned parts. Some of the later guns were pretty good, but he cautions "Most of the internals now varied quite widely as to manufacturing methods and tolerances." This tells me there'll be some hand fitting likely required to make it work.

If you can get hold of Irv at Western Gun Parts, he might be able to help you.

Good luck, mate. I'll be curious to see how this works out.
 
Thanks for the lead, I'll look in to it. I hoped for a drop in fix, but this could turn into a fun project. I'm a machinist by trade so fitting parts isn't an issue. The problem's gonna be that I'm not not an expert on these guns. I guess it might be time to crack 'er open and figure out what all im getting into lol.

Thanks again for the tip. I'll try to post updates if this goes any where.
 
I've run close to a thousand rounds through mine that is about that same age and has the same stamped parts.
It was my first rifle and I took my first deer with it.
Never had an issue with mine or saw any problems with any that my hunting buddies were using back then.
If it ain't broke.....
 
The stamped lifter pivots on a screw that passes through the receiver from side to side. The Pre-64 lever pivots on two peg screws, one from each side. Are the pivot holes the same size?
Later post '64s use a cast lifter, and there seem to be variations. No idea about interchangeability.
Might be easier to just pick up some 60s vintage parts to have on hand, should anything ever break.
 
I second talking to Irv or Jeff at WGP's.
They should know the weak points in this series of Winchesters.
Then buy up the weak point parts.
Stick'im sumplace you won't find'im for safe keep'in.........................:onCrack:
 
one of the reasons levers piquet my interest is they are a 1800’s design, early industrial age, if you are a machinist you should have no issue to manufacture any internal part with right modern mashin or even without, in good old fashion
 
.223Rem said:
Thanks everyone, everything I've read makes it seem like they are made of glass. good to hear that's not the case. I'll just enjoy it and fix it if I ever have to.
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The gun is 51 years old and used by your grandfather. If it was "made of glass", dont you think something would have happened by now?

Anyways, for gun parts, if you need them, try Numrichs in the US or Western Gun Parts in Canada
 
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