New black 9mm bull pup non restricted Jardinc j68

white_knight said:
Got to handle this monsrosity in store a few weeks back. It was unreasonably heavy, stiff, uncomfortable, controls where a mess, trigger was dangerously light imo, no way to clear malfunctions without a toolset and cost more than a type 81 (I think it was 1300+ but don’t quote me on that)
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What store?
What was stiff?
Controls seem rather simple..... how did you find them a mess?
Why would you need a tool set to clear a jam?
 
Handled one at Gone Fishing in Courtenay. Weighs a ton - feels like 7 or 8 pounds with a high CG, looks as comfortable as it feels, straight blow back (going by the muscle needed to #### it) no thought given to anything but making it as cheap as humanly possible, the top corners are actually square, you know, where your cheek goes, not quite sharp, but square enough to be an issue. Unexpectedly enough, it manages one "first in class" - it's the world's first unwieldy bull pup. Maybe because it's twice as long as it needs to be, maybe because it's twice as heavy, but it's actually awkward to shoulder and swings like a ten pound weight on the end of a 5 foot chain. If you add to that the fact that the asking price is roughly the same as a T81 and a crate of surplus, it simply boggles the mind. Absolute crap.
 
My father always told me, son, you can be the ripest, most juiciest peach in the world, but someone, somewhere just does not like peaches. Good, because Jard ain't no peach, this thing is WASABI, it bites, and we love it.

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Joking aside, we brought it to Canada, because more NR on the market, the better. Also, because Jard made major improvements on the new J68, compared to the old J48 that was here previously. Its unfair to compare the old J48 model to the J68, and we understand that it will take some time to change people's minds, but we are game.

Caliber Mag. just did a review on the rifle, and called it the ultimate "truck gun", and that's what it is. A fun, NR, take it in the bush gun, you won't care if it gets dirty, muddy, scratched up, or dinged. Its designed for you to have fun.

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enefgee said:
Handled one at Gone Fishing in Courtenay. Weighs a ton - feels like 7 or 8 pounds with a high CG, looks as comfortable as it feels, straight blow back (going by the muscle needed to #### it) no thought given to anything but making it as cheap as humanly possible, the top corners are actually square, you know, where your cheek goes, not quite sharp, but square enough to be an issue. Unexpectedly enough, it manages one "first in class" - it's the world's first unwieldy bull pup. Maybe because it's twice as long as it needs to be, maybe because it's twice as heavy, but it's actually awkward to shoulder and swings like a ten pound weight on the end of a 5 foot chain. If you add to that the fact that the asking price is roughly the same as a T81 and a crate of surplus, it simply boggles the mind. Absolute crap.
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7.5lbs, way heavier then a sub 2000, but most people don't seem to like all the plastic on the keltec..... :)

I will say I find it bizarre that they couldn't at least attach some sort of pad to the cheek area and perhaps contour the butt area a bit more and also cap it with rubber. They sell what looks like the fuzz(loop) side of a hook and loop industrial velcro strip as an after thought improvement for the cheek weld.

When you say the top corners are square, do you mean chamfered? It looks flat on top with chamfered edges?

It's unfortunate that there are not more online video's and reviews as the only ones range from "it's the most accurate best trigger 9mm carbine ever" to "it doesn't work unless you clean it after every mag as instructed"

I read through the instructions and the cleaning seemed more like for the break in procedure and not for the life of the gun but regardless there are mixed reviews and the lack of reviews in general for a gun that has been for sale in America for over a year is strange.

Blueline, you guys should see if you can get someone to do a video review of the Canadian model? Have any of your employees bought one of the first shipment models? Have you guys shot them?

Edit, just saw the caliber review comment. Is that magazine only?
 
Blue Line Solutions said:
Joking aside, we brought it to Canada, because more NR on the market, the better. Also, because Jard made major improvements on the new J68, compared to the old J48 that was here previously. Its unfair to compare the old J48 model to the J68, and we understand that it will take some time to change people's minds, but we are game.

Caliber Mag. just did a review on the rifle, and called it the ultimate "truck gun", and that's what it is. A fun, NR, take it in the bush gun, you won't care if it gets dirty, muddy, scratched up, or dinged. Its designed for you to have fun.
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The J68 is an improved version of the J67.... the only thing relevant with the J48 is that it was also made by Jard, and it had serious issues.

Have you shot the gun?
 
Can-down said:
Edit, just saw the caliber review comment. Is that magazine only?
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Yes, Caliber Magazine put the Jard though its paces. We would consider it a favourable review.

Here is an excerpt.

We credit JARD for building a gun that makes us reexamine our perception of an entire class of firearm. In a way, it's the ultimate truck gun, and it's definitely worth experiencing first hand. It's available exclusively from Blue Line Solutions Canada, and we think it's worth a serious look.
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speedjunkiesracing said:
$900 US so $1700 ??? here with NR tax. Pass
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Nah, NS isn't importing this one...

hbean said:
finally High Point has a wingman to make it look attractive.
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Yes but the hi point is reliable and cheap to buy. This one definitely isn't cheap, and the name brand doesn't exactly inspire confidence for being reliable either...

Hell, if HI point made NR barrel lengthed guns they would probably be super popular with the plinking crowd...
 
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Caliber Magazine Review is up. CLICK HERE for the full article.

The Jard J68 made our 2017 list of most interesting guns from SHOT Show for Canadians because it’s an ultra-handy carbine with reliable magazines and a superb trigger. Now, thanks to minor changes by the Jard team, it retains its coveted non-restricted status. With a retail price of about $1400 (blame the Canadian dollar), it’s not dirt cheap, but then it’s also made in America in small numbers by a company that cares about the Canadian market. The gun’s trigger makes this a paradoxical rifle. The trigger, buried in a metal box so aesthetically harsh that it would have hurt the feelings of Uziel Gal (the designer of the Uzi), is a single-stage match trigger, which you’ll know the second you press it, yet it’s contained within a brutally utilitarian, all-terrain package. That this is even possible makes us question why we’ve tolerated other bullpup triggers. We credit Jard for building a gun that makes us reexamine our perception of an entire class of firearm. In a way, it’s the ultimate truck gun, and it’s definitely worth experiencing firsthand. It’s available exclusively from Blue Line Solutions Canada, and we think it’s worth a serious look.
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Match trigger and shot gun patterns...... average, mean some tighter groups would have been nice considering the wide variety of ammo they ran.
I wonder why the trigger weight changed as the gun heated?


The average method makes sense to describe groups that were blown up by a single flyer.
 
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