X-Metal Bullets

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Anyone on here had experience with the X-Metal 9mm 124gr Hi Tek powder coated?
I was just shopping around this AM and found they have kits that include 1000 bullets, primers and enough powder that comes to $0.1735 per round.
Don't want to order enough for 3000 rounds and find out they SUCK.
Not expecting or needing bullseye results.
 
Had a chat with one of the guys on the CZ IPSC team last year at nationals. They had unlimited free ammo to shoot through various CZ's, supplied by xmetal. He swore by their bullets and said it's all he trains with. In the xmetal ammo, I can't say I had any issues, reasonably accurate from what I recall. That being said, I've never loaded with them myself.
 
digitalblue said:
To be honest, I'm not even sure why anyone bothers with these X-metal coated bullets when you can buy a box of campro plated bullets for around the same price (sometimes cheaper).
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Did I ask if someone had a better idea? NO I did not.
I have used Campro and they work.
Saw something new that looked interesting so asked if anyone had experience with them.
Why do people on here INSIST on throwing in their non-constructive 2 cents?
 
They worked well for me for the last 4000rds. Ran them thru Alfa, CZ, 1911, Glock, Grand Power K100.

Shooting them well in club league. Couple first place wins.

100rds around 9 Y, new gun and not even trying. I consider them to be plenty accurate. The more right shots are me trying left hand supported that I normally pull right a bit.

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greywolf67nt said:
Did I ask if someone had a better idea? NO I did not.
I have used Campro and they work.
Saw something new that looked interesting so asked if anyone had experience with them.
Why do people on here INSIST on throwing in their non-constructive 2 cents?
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I would say his opinion is a bit constructive.... if they were more competitive on the pricing, many more people would be using them, myself included.
I've used the 125gn and found that the quality was fine but the thickness of the coating can be a bit inconsistent so be prepared to load the OAL a bit shorter than expected.
Overall I would say go for it and give them a shot (pun intended)
 
They're marketing used to pitch that due to the coating there is less friction so you can develop lighter loads and meet the same velocity (power factor). Not sure if it is significant enough.
 
VancouverS4 said:
They're marketing used to pitch that due to the coating there is less friction so you can develop lighter loads and meet the same velocity (power factor). Not sure if it is significant enough.
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They shoot about 5PF higher than the same loads with Campro in several pistols I've tried.
 
A bit of smoke and a rather pungent smell from the powder, but good to shoot with no problems with my .45
 
greywolf67nt said:
Did I ask if someone had a better idea? NO I did not.
I have used Campro and they work.
Saw something new that looked interesting so asked if anyone had experience with them.
Why do people on here INSIST on throwing in their non-constructive 2 cents?
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....just maybe the concept of a PUBLIC forum has escaped you....
if constructive advise or criticism from various levels of experience is not precisely what you're looking for, perhaps you should just pick up your marbles and go home
 
Bassmaster said:
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....just maybe the concept of a PUBLIC forum has escaped you....
if constructive advise or criticism from various levels of experience is not precisely what you're looking for, perhaps you should just pick up your marbles and go home
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Yup, you’re right. Nothing wrong with DigitalBlue’s reply. It was constructive, it offered another alternative in case the OP wasn’t aware. The OP needs to chill out. Replying to this thread is like walking on thin ice, geez.
 
Constructive or non constructive; I don't care LOL. I did load 500 X 230 gr. in .45 ACP.; I have never used them in 9mm.

I don't shoot IPSC, but I shoot a lot.

  1. The coating is soft, and there was quit a number slightly larger than swaged cast lead; evn though the cases were resized with Lee dies, I had a few where the coating "slipped" when seating; raising a slight "bead" and these caused jamming.
  2. Other club members noted how much they stank; the coating is burning off rather then the lead. Good? Burning polymers are not likely all that great for you either.
  3. Accuracy was really good (but the old Nork puts about everything on target.

So shot fine, loading/feeding issues, stink when fired on an indoor range; if they were cheap and I needed bullets; I might buy again, but not likely.
 
I bought a box of the 125gr pills. Bullet weights were all over the place from as low as 122gr up to the stated 125gr. A majority landing in the 124gr. For me, at 10yrds, it wasn't too bad. At 25yrds, I looked like I'd shot a shotgun at my target. Others have had success with them, good for them. For roughly the same if not $5 more, I can have plated Campros that are a heck of a lot more consistent and accurate, at least out of my pistols. I've stayed away from X-metals since...
 
For CAS a plated bullet is not allowed, so a cast, or swaged, lead non gas checked bullet is what is required. Velocities are low. I cast my own and to save time I also buy bullets. The X-Metal bullets are coated, with an coating from a reputable supplier. http://hi-performancebulletcoatings.com/

I have loaded 125 gr and 147 gr X-Metals bullets in my 38/357 hipguns and rifle. I don't have any issues, haven't noticed any smell, but I only shoot outdoors. I did notice a little bit of what appears to be burnt paint or coating in the barrel. When I say a bit I mean I use a magnifying eye loop to see it. This residue brushes out of the barrel easily, one pass maybe 2.

The 147 is in reality just an oversized 9mm bullet, smooth, no crimp or lube grooves. I shoot it in my '66 lever gun, so I roll crimp it. I seat and crimp in separate steps, no issue, the coating is tough. I bell my cases before seating the bullets, just as I do with cast, with either a LEE powder through or Lyman "M", nothing excessive. I asked X-Metal if I could resize their bullets, they did not recommend it. That being said, I sized and lubed some of the 125 gr bullets and shot them with well beyond CAS loads, and was pleased with the results.

I can see no reason why I wouldn't try them in if I were you. In fact I plan on loading up some in my 9mm Browning Long. I also will be buying more for my CAS guns. My only complaint is that I would like a larger selection, and more calibers. Like some bullets for my 44 Spl/Mag and 44-40 guns.
 
Meroh said:
Constructive or non constructive; I don't care LOL. I did load 500 X 230 gr. in .45 ACP.; I have never used them in 9mm.

I don't shoot IPSC, but I shoot a lot.

The coating is soft, and there was quit a number slightly larger than swaged cast lead; evn though the cases were resized with Lee dies, I had a few where the coating "slipped" when seating; raising a slight "bead" and these caused jamming.
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I still find this odd. How a coating is the fault for your 1911 jamming. But say lubed lead bullets worked. Ive gone thru 1000's of these. Never had an issue with the "coating". I got shaving when I didn't have enough flare, and the LEE shell plates are loose as heck. They don't always align proper. A lot of alignment issues were solve by better shell holder.. 4 semi auto I shot xmetal Hitek bullets from. Not once I have a jam due to coating. I had 1 jam in 4000rds due to me reusing a prime case I pulled the bullet. Never the coating fault.
 
I have loaded about 9,000 180 gr 40 cal so far. They shoot very accurate in my CZ TS . A number of my fellow shooters have switched over to them. Some report better feeding which might be do to the slippery coating. I was able to drop my powder load of long shot from 6.3 gr to 5.4 gr. and still make major. Some claim less felt recoil but that is alway a subjective judgement. My barrel is totally clean after a shoot with no build up of anything. Bottom line they work and I like them.
I also have loaded about 5,000 124 gr 9mm but just use them for fun shoots.
 
I tried them in my Blackhawk 357/ 9mm. Had a bunch that would not fit in the cylinder. They chambered and fired in my High Power no problem.
Accuracy was comparable to factory Blazers that I had with me.
They do stink when fired! Would I buy more? Probably if they were cheaper.
 
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