Supporting you - T.O/Canadian Firearm Ban

unfortunately, the reading will probably stop at the "naïve and stupid" comment....although may be true.....insults wont go far if you want him to take you seriously....


As far as federal goes, I also supported Maxine Bernier, but Andrew sheer is all we have now, and to withhold a vote for the conservatives because of him...would be suicide for all our legal firearms owners rights.


I would vote conservatives even if the "donkey from shrek" was the leader......its the divide and conquer tactics that are killing all our rights...and the talk about not supporting sheer and the conservatives, because you don't like the leader.....is very narrow sighted....and is feeding right into the anti gun lobby's hand...….the fact that we cannot stand together is suicide for firearm owners in Canada..
 
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Same thing as CPC leadership. Let's figure out which candidates are rational and throw support behind them. We all know the leftists will be doing the same. Time to match firepower
 
Never ever underestimate the underdog ... trump anybody ? The Ndp can absolutely win and they have a very charasmatic leader and as far as sheer goes ? I can tell you He was a regular shooter at the Regina wild life federation - call and ask the staff if you need proof and his children went to the Regina Christian School. The Christian school thing might not mean anything to some, but it sure makes a difference to me.

Don't rule out jegmeet signg Ndp leader as having no hope of winning and don't rule out sheer as a great leader and gun advocate.
I'm sure the debates will help us all see better.

Keep up the good work brother
 
Maxime Bernier was our guy, but milk producers from Quebec voted him out... Scheer is bland and I don't see how he can win. But Trudeau needs out.

It still boggles my mind how all the subsidized supply managed milk producers are members of the conservative party and managed to swing the leadership vote in fabour of a social conservative from saskatchewan.
Always found that narrative a little hard to swallow.
 
It still boggles my mind how all the subsidized supply managed milk producers are members of the conservative party and managed to swing the leadership vote in fabour of a social conservative from saskatchewan.
Always found that narrative a little hard to swallow.

How is sheer a social conservative ? What is it exactly that makes him one ? And what makes Maxime far better ?
 
I've been thinking lately that, the freedom any country enjoys is directly proportional to it's gun culture.
Let that sink in a bit...

We must never stop pushing back on every point or step the antis take... we must always push back.

One thing gunners miss is the word play they use...
Are guns "good or bad"?
If you ask someone that question, you will get a good grasp on their reality by the answer they give.

As we, (or you should) all know, guns are neither good nor bad... they have no morals or thoughts of their own.
It is the possesor that determines the use and nature of the tool being used.
If you let them have that narrative, (that guns are bad) you have already lost.
Is a police officer's gun bad?

Another one, is "guns were designed to kill"...
The truth is, firearms are simply designed to shoot a projectile at high speed and with great force in a straight direction.
It would be more correct these days to say "guns were designed to defend" or "guns were designed to prevent..."
More guns these days were designed for competition or just fun on the range.
More guns everyday, do their job in silence and we never hear about it.
Guns were not designed to kill.
Don't let them have that narrative.
 
I fear that conservative voters will fall into disarray over the nonsense of whether Sheer is a good leader..or not...…. and what Bernier is doing right now...at this time ….seems more like a guy who is trying to divide the conservative vote..to ensure a conservative failure at the polls...…..makes me wonder if maybe he took one of the "liberal envelopes" that made liberal corruption famous in the past......as it makes no sense whatsoever to do what he is trying to do.....this close to an election.....

Truth is, we must all cast a vote for conservatives...irregardless of who the leader is....and get Trudeau out of office.....then we can work on pressuring conservative direction/leadership....after we take office...…


If we don't all come together....we will probably ensure Trudeau another term....and I think all of us in this forum know what that means ….
 
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Kroc posted:
“It crossed my mind the other day what we can do. I think I do what I would consider the bare minimum, which is probably 100% beyond what most gun owners do, however it seems like nothing compared to say the CGN member Ottawa.

1. Join a firearm org.
2. Join the CPC and provincial Conservative Party.
3. Vote in leadership races and elections.
4. Be a responsible firearm owner, and a polite voice in the public sphere, social media, and personal conversations. Push back in those places with respect when you can. You catch more flies with honey than with salt.
5. Try to encourage those who may be interested in the shooting hobby to get their license. Take a non shooter to the range, even once a year is better than never!”

I agree completely. I also wrote to my MP (Lib), Goodale, and the PMO.
Use simple facts to rebut misinformation; point out articles like this https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-no-bang-with-gun-ban
And whenever possible point out the cost to taxpayers...that’s what really sunk the LGR.
I don’t believe the NRA approach will resonate in Canada.

PS: still voting Conservative; disunity means Trudeau wins
 
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Bob74 excellant letter and thank you for your years of service dealing with the dregs of society. One of the problems we face as firearm owners (the word gun scares people) is that of a lack of freedom. As you well know. We are not protected by the charter of rights, we only have a privealage to firearms. Sadly this gives politicians the power to do what they want when they have a majority control. However having people like you with your background speak out may help us in our "fight" not to be looked upon as hooligans and nutz.
 
Never ever underestimate the underdog ... trump anybody ? The Ndp can absolutely win and they have a very charasmatic leader and as far as sheer goes ? I can tell you He was a regular shooter at the Regina wild life federation - call and ask the staff if you need proof and his children went to the Regina Christian School. The Christian school thing might not mean anything to some, but it sure makes a difference to me.

Don't rule out jegmeet signg Ndp leader as having no hope of winning and don't rule out sheer as a great leader and gun advocate.
I'm sure the debates will help us all see better.

Keep up the good work brother

Got it, so the NDP needs the Russians to help.
:/
 
It's both disingenuous and completely presumptive to preach that a Liberal win is "imminent". The PM's approval has been steadily declining since February, with his lowest approval rating hitting 44% according to the Angus Reid Institute. He gained a small and very short-lived blip in support after the Trump fiasco which has reportedly been toppled by the controversies surrounding asylum seekers and the heckler incident. These two issues alone according to Aungus Reid, allegedly puts the PM in complete disagreement with 67% of Canadians. Pretty clear that politically and intellectually speaking, the PM is his own worst enemy. The past year’s political and social discourse has shown that even the most devout leftists are finding it difficult to stand under the once beloved red umbrella with Trudeau at the helm. Sheer has much to capitalize on in the coming year and there’s little doubt that the PM will continue to drag the Liberal brand and platform through the mud. All the way to Election Day on October 21st 2019. Until that day, our community has but one option, band together and turn this nation blue.
 
It's both disingenuous and completely presumptive to preach that a Liberal win is "imminent". The PM's approval has been steadily declining since February, with his lowest approval rating hitting 44% according to the Angus Reid Institute. He gained a small and very short-lived blip in support after the Trump fiasco which has reportedly been toppled by the controversies surrounding asylum seekers and the heckler incident. These two issues alone according to Aungus Reid, allegedly puts the PM in complete disagreement with 67% of Canadians. Pretty clear that politically and intellectually speaking, the PM is his own worst enemy. The past year’s political and social discourse has shown that even the most devout leftists are finding it difficult to stand under the once beloved red umbrella with Trudeau at the helm. Sheer has much to capitalize on in the coming year and there’s little doubt that the PM will continue to drag the Liberal brand and platform through the mud. All the way to Election Day on October 21st 2019. Until that day, our community has but one option, band together and turn this nation blue.
I agree but this Bernier fiasco in starting another party will split the vote and tweedledy will be PM for another term. We should all send letters to Bernier to hold of on this new party ideas.
 
I agree but this Bernier fiasco in starting another party will split the vote and tweedledy will be PM for another term. We should all send letters to Bernier to hold of on this new party ideas.

I wouldn't be surprised if Bernier runs for the Liberals in the next election. Running his own party will be a flop. Hes not a Social Conservative. He's not really a Liberal. He's definitely not a socialist, and he certainly isn't a Libertarian.

Lacking a coherent political philosophy, being from Quebec and having having loose ties to organized crime (joke) would make him perfect for the Liberals. Its only a matter of time before supply management gets offered up on the altar of free trade anyways.
 
I agree but this Bernier fiasco in starting another party will split the vote and tweedledy will be PM for another term. We should all send letters to Bernier to hold of on this new party ideas.

I agree but this Bernier fiasco in starting another party will split the vote and tweedledy will be PM for another term. We should all send letters to Bernier to hold of on this new party ideas.

Other than making a political statement, I don't really see how Bernier starting a new party will have any negative effect on CPC voter turnout. I think we could safely assume that the minimal attention he will attract (if any) will be from Quebecers. Needless to say, Bernier's political ambitions are a distant and frankly negligible issue. It just seems like every tantrum he's thrown up until now has been a result of his inability to deal with losing the CPC leadership race. Ergo the whole "I didn't win because the party is corrupt" rhetoric. It's important to remember that the blue tide hit Ontario for the first time in fifteen years, ultimately putting the Liberals rein of terror to an end. The loss of Ontario is arguably the biggest defeat the Liberals have faced to date. This is a significant win for Conservatives that will have massive implications for the next federal election.
 
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Other than making a political statement, I don't really see how Bernier starting a new party will have any negative effect on CPC voter turnout. I think we could safely assume that the minimal attention he will attract (if any) will be from Quebecers. Needless to say, Bernier's political ambitions are a distant and frankly negligible issue. It just seems like every tantrum he's thrown up until now has been a result of his inability to deal with losing the CPC leadership race. Ergo the whole "I didn't win because the party is corrupt" rhetoric. It's important to remember that the blue tide hit Ontario for the first time in fifteen years.
 
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