Picture of the day

It's great to see this thread is still alive and kicking �� I've not been around for quite some time due to some serious health issues, I had a Brain tumour in September 2016 after biopsy it turned out to be glioblastoma, now after 3 surgerys and tons of chemo and radiation I am still on this side of the grass ��This September will be 2 years,so I'm still beating the odds. I'm 38 with a wife and 10 year old son that keep me going strong, a big plus is they both love shooting as well as myself, so I get to live vicariously through them �� My son and I get to enjoy the picture of the day together and discuss the picture
Thank you

Cheers everyone !!
Joe
 
Congrats, Joe! This month I marked 8 years cancer free. Every day is a bonus, ain't it? Most things don't really matter sh!t by comparison.
 
First thing first - Hey, Joe! Great to hear from you. Way to kick cancer's ass. Glad to have you with us. :) And thank you for starting what may be CGN's longest-lived thread.

Agreed.

Here's a twist - "Soviet soldiers inspect a captured British Mark V tank from World War I, in Berlin, May 1945"

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Brookwood

One has to wonder how the hell that got there, then. Had the Germans captured it during WW1, they would not have been allowed to keep it. Did it go postwar to somewhere like Francem or Belgium, only to be captured during the second go-round?
 
First thing first - Hey, Joe! Great to hear from you. Way to kick cancer's ass. Glad to have you with us. :) And thank you for starting what may be CGN's longest-lived thread.



One has to wonder how the hell that got there, then. Had the Germans captured it during WW1, they would not have been allowed to keep it. Did it go postwar to somewhere like Francem or Belgium, only to be captured during the second go-round?

Howdy Dan !! Thanks for the positive words !!! Not to mention that piece of artillery to the right ? Looks like steel rimmed wooden wheels, perhaps another vintage WW1 implement ??
 
DAD - there's a lot of debate as to how the two Mk Vs wound up in Berlin, but the general consensus is that they were originally part of a group given by the Brits to the Imperial Russian Army for use in the Russian Civil War. Post revolution, they had been displayed as a monument in Smolensk, Russia, before being 'liberated' by the Germans and brought to a Berlin museum after the German invasion of the Soviet Union in 1941. As for how they wound up outside the museum in 1945, well, there's even more considerable debate if they had been used as 'last ditch' weapons for the defense of Berlin or not. There's a few pics floating around the interweb of the other one, with her backside all blown to hell and her treads thrown forward after taking a direct hit in the courtyard some distance (and at an angle) from the one pictured above.

C'est la guerre!!!

Brookwood
 
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Pretty rough audience here on CGN. I, for one, can separate the military man from the politician. Facing heavy AA and missile defences 23 times and getting shot down and wounded in the middle of Hanoi and then enduring 6 years of torture and deprivation as a POW is more than most of the peanut gallery here can relate to. The US Navy thought his performance was honorable in the circumstances and worthy of decoration and promotion. As a military person I'd entirely agree.

Agreed.
 
Pretty rough audience here on CGN. I, for one, can separate the military man from the politician. Facing heavy AA and missile defences 23 times and getting shot down and wounded in the middle of Hanoi and then enduring 6 years of torture and deprivation as a POW is more than most of the peanut gallery here can relate to. The US Navy thought his performance was honorable in the circumstances and worthy of decoration and promotion. As a military person I'd entirely agree.

I have a Ex wife that I have had to deal with for 18 years... Has to mean something?
 
First thing first - Hey, Joe! Great to hear from you. Way to kick cancer's ass. Glad to have you with us. :) And thank you for starting what may be CGN's longest-lived thread.
I second the motion by Dark Alley Dan.
This is the best, most civil and most informative thread on CGN.
You started something very good jwhc. I am very happy that you are still with us to enjoy it.
 
Commerce raiding was done by all sides during WW2. One of the most successful German ships was the Atlantis.

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She had a remarkable, if brief, career. Her most meaningful victory was this (thanks, Wikipedia):

At about 07:00 on 11 November 1940, Atlantis encountered the Blue Funnel Line cargo ship Automedon about 250 mi (400 km) northwest of Sumatra. At 08:20, Atlantis fired a warning shot across Automedon's bow, and her radio operator at once began transmitting a distress call of "RRRR – Automedon – 0416N" ("RRRR" meant "under attack by armed raider").

At a range of around 2,000 yd (1,800 m), Atlantis shelled Automedon, ceasing fire after three minutes in which she had destroyed her bridge, accommodation, and lifeboats. Six crew members were killed and twelve injured.

The Germans boarded the stricken ship and broke into the strong room, where they found fifteen bags of Top Secret mail for the British Far East Command, including a large quantity of decoding tables, fleet orders, gunnery instructions, and naval intelligence reports. After wasting an hour breaking open the ship's safe only to discover "a few shillings in cash", a search of the Automedon's chart room found a small weighted green bag marked "Highly Confidential" containing the Chief of Staff's report to the Commander in Chief Far East, Robert Brooke Popham. The bag was supposed to be thrown overboard if there was risk of loss, but the personnel responsible for this had been killed or incapacitated. The report contained the latest assessment of the Japanese Empire's military strength in the Far East, along with details of Royal Air Force units, naval strength, and notes on Singapore's defences. It painted a gloomy picture of British land and naval capabilities in the Far East, and declared that Britain was too weak to risk war with Japan.

Automedon was sunk at 15:07. Rogge soon realised the importance of the intelligence material he had captured and quickly transferred the documents to the recently acquired prize vessel Ole Jacob, ordering Lieutenant Commander Paul Kamenz and six of his crew to take charge of the vessel. After an uneventful voyage they arrived in Kobe, Japan, on 4 December 1940.

The mail reached the German Embassy in Tokyo on 5 December. The German Naval attaché Paul Wenneker had the summary of the British plan wired to Berlin, while the original was hand-carried by Kamenz to Berlin via the Trans-Siberian railway. A copy was given to the Japanese, to whom it provided valuable intelligence prior to their commencing hostilities against the Western Powers. Rogge was rewarded for this with an ornate katana; the only other Germans so honoured were Hermann Göring and Field Marshal Erwin Rommel.

After reading the captured Chief of Staff report, on 7 January 1941 Japanese Admiral Yamamoto wrote to the Naval Minister asking whether, if Japan knocked out America, the remaining British and Dutch forces would be suitably weakened for the Japanese to deliver a death blow; the Automedon intelligence on the weakness of the British Empire is thus credibly linked with the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor and the attack leading to the fall of Singapore.

The crew's last few days at sea were interesting:

Early on the morning of 22 November 1941, Atlantis was intercepted by HMS Devonshire. U-126 dived, leaving her captain behind, as he had gone aboard Atlantis. At 08:40, Atlantis transmitted a raider report posing as the Dutch ship Polyphemus. By 09:34, Devonshire had received confirmation this report was false. From a distance of 14–15 km (8.7–9.3 mi), outside the range of Atlantis's 150 mm (5.9 in) guns, Devonshire commenced fire with her 8 in (200 mm) battery.

The second and third salvos hit Atlantis. Seven sailors were killed as the crew abandoned ship; Rogge was the last off. Ammunition exploded, the bow rose into the air, and the ship sank.

After Devonshire left the area, U-126 resurfaced and picked up 300 German sailors and a wounded American prisoner. U-126 carried or towed rafts towards the still-neutral Brazil (1,500 km (930 mi) west). Two days later the German refuelling ship Python arrived and took the survivors aboard. On 1 December, while Python was refueling U-126 and UA, another of the British cruisers seeking the raiders, HMS Dorsetshire, appeared. The U-boats dived immediately with Python's crew scuttling her; Dorsetshire departed, leaving the U-boats to recover the survivors. Eventually various German and Italian submarines took Rogge's crew back to St Nazaire.

Some video of the process:

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If you're up for a lengthy read, there's an excellent operational history here: http://www.bismarck-class.dk/hilfskreuzer/atlantis.html
 
Pretty rough audience here on CGN. I, for one, can separate the military man from the politician. Facing heavy AA and missile defences 23 times and getting shot down and wounded in the middle of Hanoi and then enduring 6 years of torture and deprivation as a POW is more than most of the peanut gallery here can relate to. The US Navy thought his performance was honorable in the circumstances and worthy of decoration and promotion. As a military person I'd entirely agree.

I was not disparaging the man, merely commenting on his choice of running mate, which likely cost him in his bid for the Presidency. A lapse of good judgement? This in no way detracts from his military record.

We are well aware that you are "a military" person, as you take every opportunity to remind us. There are a few of us on CGN.
 
Gentlemen:

There's plenty of space on this forum dedicated to the endless back and forth regarding the glories and horrors of the Trump presidency and other messy aspects of politics. Let's please, please, Sweet Baby Jesus PLEASE not do that here.

Civility is key. We've done very well for fifteen thousand posts and change. Let's keep this a little island of decent behaviour in an otherwise contentious forum.

Thanks to all. :)

Dan
 

Grumman F6F Hellcat during the Beale AFB air show. You will also see a Russian Yak-3 aircraft painted in the colors of the Normandie-Niemen Fighter Regt.
 
Commerce raiding was done by all sides during WW2. One of the most successful German ships was the Atlantis.

hk_atlantis_01_in_indian_ocean.jpg


W-Atlantis-1b-Feb11.jpg


hk_atlantis_02_goldenfels.jpg


She had a remarkable, if brief, career. Her most meaningful victory was this (thanks, Wikipedia):



The crew's last few days at sea were interesting:



Some video of the process:

[youtube]rtujiKP5SAc[/youtube]

If you're up for a lengthy read, there's an excellent operational history here: http://www.bismarck-class.dk/hilfskreuzer/atlantis.html

Interesting these German auxiliary cruiser missions were generally south of the equator, during both the first and second world wars. Would have been a suicide mission in the north Atlantic.

Grizz
 
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