How do i focus this scope?

I just need more practice I think
As does everyone who doesn't make a living by shooting daily. If you can't make the shot with a 4x scope, it's time to get closer not get a higher magnification scope. I like variables for the ability to shoot coyotes at longer ranges with my big game rig. I usually set it on 6x and leave it there when in open country and on 2.5x or 3x when in the bush.
 
You actually may have too much magnification if you are having problems. The higher the magnification you are using adds to "shake" of the crosshairs and this can hurt your groupings. Just what I have found from personal experience. I run 3X9's on my big game rifles and typically they stay on 4X.
 
After some careful thinking, I'll embarass myself and retract that challenge. I had extended it to Boo in the first place, but now it seems all the sharp shooters are showing up. Anyways, maybe a couple too many beers last evening.:redface: I consider myself to be a fairly good shot, not sharpshooter material, but I'll give it a try. turn the .270WSM down to 4 and -400 yds from sitting position. Honestly, in the typical SA wind, could be tough.

gitrdun,

Think of your challenge this way:

1) Most importantly, the target is at a precisely known distance, 400 yds. This almost guarantees a hit, if the shooter knows his rifle.

2) A four power scope will make the 12" pie plate look like it is 100 yards away.

You wouldn't have any trouble hitting it with iron sights at 100 yards, and in doing that you have TRY to focus your eye on a rear sight, a front sight, and the target, all at the same time.

Using a scope, regardless of magnification, puts the aiming device and the target on the same plane, so your eye only has to focus on one distance while aiming. This make things not only much easier, but also much more precise.


3) Your challenge allowed any field position: that includes sitting and prone.

My father-in-law shot a huge ram with a 270 Husqvarna Featherweight mounted with a 3X Leupold, at more than 300 yards, many years ago. I was right beside him, and he called the shot perfectly. Said he had no trouble at all picking the spot to put the 130 gr Silvertip.

Let us know how you make out with your scope set at 4x after you get back from the range. I'm betting that you will be pleasantly surprised at how well you do.

When you get up here we'll let you shoot some groups with a 270 and 4X scope. :D

Ted
 
I agree with WCTHEMI - better to have slightly less magnification than you want rather than slightly more than you need.

My bro hunted with a fixed four for many many years. Took deer with it out to about 250-300, and shooting it at the range i never had a problem with the 300 yard gong with it.

I don't know about 400 yards, but I don't shoot well enough in the field to be comfortable hunting out to 400 yards most days anyway :)
 
Move West young man, move West. ;)

I agree we all have priorities in life. I can literally go shooting 2 minutes from home and often shoot in excess of 5000 centre-fire rounds every year. (As well as 2 or 3 bricks of rim-fire) I can certainly understand why someone without ready access to a range would have shooting accessories set at a lower priority than cars.

BTW, you don't need to spend 2 grand on a good scope. A good used Leupold can usually be found for under $350

I would love to move west and am in the process of trying to see what I can do to get out there because where I live, it just sucks for shooting. 2 hours in any directions there are great ranges, just not near Toronto.

If I had access to a range like you do, I think I wouldn't even be here arguing. as I would have learned by now alot more then I Know about shooting. I do have an Elite 3200 which was about $200, I know it's not the best but alot of people here seem to like them. i would love to get a VXIII but as I said, I don't shoot enough to spend that kind of money!


As does everyone who doesn't make a living by shooting daily. If you can't make the shot with a 4x scope, it's time to get closer not get a higher magnification scope. I like variables for the ability to shoot coyotes at longer ranges with my big gaae rig. I usually set it on 6x and leave it there when in open country and on 2.5x or 3x when in the bush.


I Agree with you. I am sure if I had shot off 5000 rounds with my gun, i would know how to use it a bit better.

You actually may have too much magnification if you are having problems. The higher the magnification you are using adds to "shake" of the crosshairs and this can hurt your groupings. Just what I have found from personal experience. I run 3X9's on my big game rifles and typically they stay on 4X.

That could also be an issue. It's way too shaky at the high magnification. Umm maybe I will get a 2-7x32 for my .22
 
I wouldn't even consider shooting anything 400 yards away.

I don't pretend to be a long range sniper.

Listen. After 40 years of hunting I know my capabilities and 300 yards is as far away as I want to shoot though I way prefer 80 to 100 yards.

And guess what?

90 percent of the game I shoot is at around 40 yards.
 
BTW cereal - here's an old trick for those times you can't get to the range.

Go get either a tiny minature toy moose (or cow or deer or whatever. THey're readily available at most toy stores or dollar stores.).

Then go get some snap caps.

Close the blinds.

Set the toy up in your home in different places where it is a little ways away from you - farther is better. Dial your variable down to a low setting, so the 'animal' only fills maybe half or less of the scope. Practice holding and firing on it different ways - using the doorframe as an impromptu rest (as you might a tree), free hand, etc. From time to time, adjust the animal to give you broadside, quartering, head on shots. put it higher, and lower. Try having some lights off and some more on just to change the lighting. Partially obscure the toy with tissue or something to simulate an animal in the bush.

It's the next best thing to being at a range. You'll actually be able to see if you 'pull' the gun when you fire, you'll get used to making snap decisions about shot placement, you'll get the feel of your rifle better, and you'll get used to controlling the rifle as you lay it on target. You'll also get the feel of where your trigger breaks more.

Focus on holding the gun the same way each time, and your breathing and such. Strive for consistency - and once you get good, practice for speed. Practice your 'load and fire' routine gradually increasing speed - practice going from your carry position (slung rifle) to shoot and increase speed.

Believe it or not - it actually does improve your shooting. Range time is better - but not available every day to everyone. Try it every day for 30 or 50 'rounds' of ammo and i guarantee you you'll be surprised by the improvement in your off hand shooting at the range the next time you DO get out. The animals may be a little surprised as well next time you're out hunting :)

The more you know your gun and your body knows it, the better you'll shoot.

And definately - there is no good reason on earth a 3200 shouldn't be a fine scope at 300 yards. You don't need super clear glass or 1000 dollar scopes.

If you're having trouble finding things in your scope, try these two tricks -

1) - when you bring your gun up, have your finger alongside the reciever and off the trigger. Then imagine you're 'pointing' at what you want to sight in on. You'll find when you look thru the scope you're almost on target.

2) - keep both eyes open and on target, even after your scope is 'up'. Then close the left eye (for right handed shooters). You'll find the object is almost centered in your scope. With a little practice, this can get you on target VERY fast, and also helps with game that's moving a little as it's easier to track the movement and the gun will already be moving with the animal as you close your left eye.

If you're still having problems with your scope - something's wrong with the scope.
 
Who is the most famous 270 rifleman of all time? Jack O'Connor, of course. What did he use? 2x. 3x. 4x. 6x scopes....Or irons. Used to kill lots of game at 400 +yards witht hose old things.

As for a 12" pie plate at 400? Prone, adjust scope to 400 yard zero, breathe well, and CLANG!!

If I can hit a 4Ltr bucket at 450 yards wiht a scope set at 2.5X, I think i can hit a 12" plate at 4X!!:D
 
How it is that x4 scope is good enough for you people, yet I can't see crap with a 12x scope @ 300 yards? I have excellent eye sight so I just have no clue.

Even 12x at 100 yards is still not enough

Sheesh!! 12x! I am 62 years old, and can still shoot any game as far out as one who practices regularly should be shooting at game with a 4X or 6X glass ( I'm talking 450 yards here) FWIW, I had my 270 out the other day, shooting 140 Accubonds at 3000 fps. This Rifle is a 700CDL with a 6x42 Leupold on top. I shot a group @ 300 meters that measures a scant 2¼" Must be seeing OK to do that. IMHO, a lot of people today carry a lot more glass on their hunting rifles than is necessary. Quality Binoculars from 8X up, plus a good scope of not more than 3-9X are sufficient for any big game hunting that is ever done in North America, and for sheep and goats or speed goats, I might add a spotting scope of up to 45X. Now for Varminting, or shooting targets, use whatever power you can handle. I have rifles with 32X for long range targets. Regards, Eagleye.
 
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How it is that x4 scope is good enough for you people, yet I can't see crap with a 12x scope @ 300 yards? I have excellent eye sight so I just have no clue.

Even 12x at 100 yards is still not enough

You probably need to focus the scope. :D

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Ted
 
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Foxer, thanks for the in depth post. I will give that a try some time very soon, I just have to go pick up some snap caps.

Like I said before, I think I just need more practice.

Thanks all for your comments
 
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