I am a "no compromiser" and 2nd amendment purist, so if there is one thing I can hardly be accused of is not having a firm stand or opinions. As for the solution, if there was any trivial one, we would already be able to CCW. The "intellectual dark web" (http://intellectualdark.website/ - people from pretty much all the political spectrum) has been more helpful in the past year or two, bringing the conversation at the philosophical & moral level than any other action I witnessed over the past seven or eight years. Thus why I bring the conversation at this level.
Liberal Handgun Ban?
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senecaty
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Very, very well said. Thank you for thinking outside the box Mr Wolvie! 
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russ.ackland
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this question has probably been asked in this thread already... but what does this handgun ban mean for owners? confiscation? or just not being allowed to take them to the range and buy new ones?
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big_boss
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It's very likely they will try to pass this just like the shennanigans with the Swiss Arms. It's low hanging fruit for parliament to look like they're doing something while the illegal guns are still coming over the border and being used to kill people.
A handgun ban lets Trudeau dance around in front of the cameras for a pat on the back without stopping crimes. Stricter border control and/or more manpower devoted to anti-smuggling would cut the illegal firearms in half, but they'll never touch that. They don't care.
A handgun ban lets Trudeau dance around in front of the cameras for a pat on the back without stopping crimes. Stricter border control and/or more manpower devoted to anti-smuggling would cut the illegal firearms in half, but they'll never touch that. They don't care.
Autolite
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It's not that they "don't care". Turdeau knows that a large portion of his supporter base are degenerate criminals and societal filth. He's not going to clamp down on the very same people who helped to give him a majority government...
Strato50
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I got a couple of friends from work to take their RPAL. Educate as many as we can that is our best hope.
I can't understand why Police Unions aren't speaking up louder to protest this ridiculous 'proposal' either? Can anybody imagine the risk put on LEO's when the word finally comes they have to attack their own law abiding citizens to confiscate a piece of property? - the very definition of tyranny. How many 'pistols' are out there in Canada? Well over a million for sure.
So how many LEO's will be put at unnecessary risk against decent citizens; are there not MANY more important issues to be dealing with? Impaired/distracted driving continues to claim thousands of lives across Canada. Opioid epidemic continues unabated. Terrorists and unsavory individuals continue to just 'walk into Canada', and Islamic extremism is on the rise globally... This just makes no sense. - Support your NFA, support your local Gun Club, teach a kid to shoot...
So how many LEO's will be put at unnecessary risk against decent citizens; are there not MANY more important issues to be dealing with? Impaired/distracted driving continues to claim thousands of lives across Canada. Opioid epidemic continues unabated. Terrorists and unsavory individuals continue to just 'walk into Canada', and Islamic extremism is on the rise globally... This just makes no sense. - Support your NFA, support your local Gun Club, teach a kid to shoot...
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The OP titled the thread incorrectly. It should read "Liberal Handgun and Assault Rifle Ban" because clearly they want to ban all Assault(ing) rifles along with handguns and will not stop at handguns if there is a ban imposed.
The prized and some very expensive non-restricted, some not at all expensive and already in the hands of firearms owners in very large numbers which have not done any assaulting will be in the same category if the present government does now what they clearly want to do. The only thing that is restraining them is the upcoming election and the rising number of big mistakes made by the present government and leader that has severely diminished his and their popularity and makes the PM look like a clown.
They may choose to run on an election platform to "make Canada safe again" by promising to ban handguns and assault(ing) firearms because clearly they have nothing sensible to go on. They are weighing their strategy and might decide that a ban will resonate with those inclined to wish for some remnant of assured safety with this misguided path.
Remember how Paul Martin lost the election?
The prized and some very expensive non-restricted, some not at all expensive and already in the hands of firearms owners in very large numbers which have not done any assaulting will be in the same category if the present government does now what they clearly want to do. The only thing that is restraining them is the upcoming election and the rising number of big mistakes made by the present government and leader that has severely diminished his and their popularity and makes the PM look like a clown.
They may choose to run on an election platform to "make Canada safe again" by promising to ban handguns and assault(ing) firearms because clearly they have nothing sensible to go on. They are weighing their strategy and might decide that a ban will resonate with those inclined to wish for some remnant of assured safety with this misguided path.
Remember how Paul Martin lost the election?
Well I might take flack on this, but I don' give a rats ass. What's going to give Trudeau the power to be able to be in power to pass a bill like this. Is the stupidity of of good ole Max, splitting the conservative party up a year before elections. I actually like Max, but he's a FOOL thinking he can form a party and win with this idiotic move! Say what you want about Sheer, but at least with a consolidated party we had a chance to beating the Liberals. Especially after this pipeline f up. And this Nafta crap.
A lot of Liberals are not very happy with Trudeau, and some moderates were leaning to the conservatives, while some crazy lefties are leaning NDP. We at least could have took his majority away. But I think he is beatable if the party stuck together... Max could have put the country first, and waited until after the election, to do this. Guys a selfish twit.
A lot of Liberals are not very happy with Trudeau, and some moderates were leaning to the conservatives, while some crazy lefties are leaning NDP. We at least could have took his majority away. But I think he is beatable if the party stuck together... Max could have put the country first, and waited until after the election, to do this. Guys a selfish twit.
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RCMP Commissioner Brenda Lucki and former police chief Bill Blair have already told the Turd that a handgun ban is not the way to go. That's far more honesty from the LEO side than I was ever expecting. Let's at least just be thankful for that...
Autolite
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For decades we've been affording the Left undeserved respect and civility. So what did that get us?
As gun owners we're about to get severely screwed over again and I'm not seeing any viable way of preventing this from happening. Perhaps it's about time for a little honestly and at the very least acknowledging why it's happening. I have very little hope that this is going to end well for us. However, acknowledging the truth might be the place to start if we are to have any hope at all...
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Paul_1982
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I hate seeing us compared to Britain, Australia or the UK.
We are not an island, and we share the longest undefended border with the country with, by far, the highest firearm possession with some of the weakest laws in the world.
75% of our crime guns (or more) come from the U.S.. For our stats to be compared to Australia or the UK, you need to remove 75% from ours!
We are not an island, and we share the longest undefended border with the country with, by far, the highest firearm possession with some of the weakest laws in the world.
75% of our crime guns (or more) come from the U.S.. For our stats to be compared to Australia or the UK, you need to remove 75% from ours!
Autolite
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Bernier knew that Scheer didn't have a hope in Hell in 2019 (and the most recent polls before Maxime bailed underscored this). That's why he did what he did. You're deluding yourself thinking that Scheer had a chance.
The TMX and the NAFTA disasters will hurt the Turd in the coming election but Jagmeet Singh will be siphoning those votes.
As gun owners we all need to now be supporting Bernier all the way. He is our only voice in the federal government. Remember that he lost the Conservative leadership race by a fraction of a fraction of 1%. This means that his potential support is likely still there.
Bernier defeating the Turd in 2019 is extremely unlikely (and I really do believe that Max already knows this). But the Lefty vote in the next election will likely be even further split between Turdeau and Singh by current Liberals who feel that Turdeau isn't destroying the country fast enough. This means that, with enough of real Conservative support behind him, Bernier might have a realistic chance of being the official opposition in 2019 and perhaps the Turd will have only a minority government. This is at least something that we can justifiably hope for.
Support Bernier now and let's focus on 2023.
https://www.maximebernier.com/a_fair_gun_policy_for_canada
Join the "Mad Max Club"...
https://www.maximebernier.com/mad_max
(If I'm wrong and Bernier doesn't have the support that he thinks he has then Canada is truly lost. If that is indeed the case then let's know now.)
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Crack
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Remember when the last non-restricted firearms registry was introduced in the '90's? Anyone recall what a number of farmers did with their guns? As I recall they placed them in the ground all over their land, with mapped locations and told the libs to stuff it. I know this scenario is considerably different, but that's what I'm prepared to do. I don't care if government watch dogs are watching this site, and tracking comments. I am at a point where I will play the martyr if need be, maybe that'll be what it takes to draw public attention to this BS. Though it is a poor comparison, as an example, if they were to announce that all two story homes were deemed to be more likely to cause loss of life during a fire, therefore all two story homes need to be left and turned over to the government, would people be so quick to comply? I know I wouldn't. Like I said it is a poor example, but I have many $000's invested in guns, I'm not just going to hand them over, especially under the guise that it's for public safety. We all know it addresses absolutely 0 gun crime. I have the luxury of knowing that if I do a stretch, my wife and kids will still be well looked after ( and for all those that want to suggest it's easy to say, I have been there before, in a different life time). This is something I feel very strongly about, and I will not comply with this kind of logic and bull####. If they could even come up with solid stats that legally owned guns are part of the issue I would consider it, but it's all so conniving and blatantly corrupt that I feel it's the only way to play them at their game. So that is what I intend to do
Remember when the last non-restricted firearms registry was introduced in the '90's? Anyone recall what a number of farmers did with their guns? As I recall they placed them in the ground all over their land, with mapped locations and told the libs to stuff it. I know this scenario is considerably different, but that's what I'm prepared to do. I don't care if government watch dogs are watching this site, and tracking comments. I am at a point where I will play the martyr if need be, maybe that'll be what it takes to draw public attention to this BS. Though it is a poor comparison, as an example, if they were to announce that all two story homes were deemed to be more likely to cause loss of life during a fire, therefore all two story homes need to be left and turned over to the government, would people be so quick to comply? I know I wouldn't. Like I said it is a poor example, but I have many $000's invested in guns, I'm not just going to hand them over, especially under the guise that it's for public safety. We all know it addresses absolutely 0 gun crime. I have the luxury of knowing that if I do a stretch, my wife and kids will still be well looked after ( and for all those that want to suggest it's easy to say, I have been there before, in a different life time). This is something I feel very strongly about, and I will not comply with this kind of logic and bull####. If they could even come up with solid stats that legally owned guns are part of the issue I would consider it, but it's all so conniving and blatantly corrupt that I feel it's the only way to play them at their game. So that is what I intend to do
