Native led "ban" on moose hunting in BC expanded...

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“Moose are integral to our people — we have relied on our moose for generations."

This always gets to me. If every native in Canada relied on wild game for survival, we would've been devoid of animals many years go. For instance, there are more natives in Manitoba than deer, as I'm sure there are more natives in BC than there are moose.

This is about money. That's all it's ever about.
 
As discussed in the Yukon thread and the earlier BC thread, we see that more and more bands are trying to impose their own laws and jurisdiction.
https://www.100milefreepress.net/news/b-c-interior-first-nations-announce-limited-entry-moose-hunt-ban/


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Interesting comments given that moose showed up in the area in the 1900's. Also note the signs throughout Williams Lake asking people (re natives) to please respect cow moose and not shoot them. Yet they will be "picking up the pieces".

I can attest to those signs. They would be hilarious if it weren't so sadly obvious - as per the signs
"This is a Cow Moose".
 
The Province say no way .....

https://www.wltribune.com/news/ministry-not-planning-ban-on-leh-moose-hunt-in-cariboo-chilcotin/

A day after First Nations in B.C.’s Interior announced they were imposing a limited-entry moose hunt ban in their respective territories, the ministry of forests confirmed it does not plan to expand closures of the limited-entry hunt (LEH).

“In the Chilcotin, LEH hunting has been reduced by 60 per cent from 2011 levels,” a spokesperson for the Ministry of Forests, Lands, Natural Resource Operations and Rural Development stated in an e-mailed response.

On Aug. 24, the ministry announced further closures and access restrictions were put in place, a move made after additional consultation with First Nations, the ministry noted.

Read more: Government announces restrictions to Chilcotin moose hunts this fall

“This government has a clear responsibility to protect and manage wildlife in the best interest of all British Columbians,” the spokesperson noted. “The province is committed to reconciliation and the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People.”

The government is continuing to sit down with First Nations governments to build a more lasting, collaborative approach to enhance moose numbers together.

“In the Cariboo for example, all resident hunting is managed through limited entry hunt (LEH), which is the most closely managed hunt opportunity, and throughout the Chilcotin, the LEH hunt is further enforced with compulsory inspection to confirm harvest information and inform management,” the spokesperson stated, noting the province’s data on moose harvest management clearly shows the LEH managed harvest does not lead to moose population declines.

Through a press release Wednesday, the Tsilhqot’in Nation and Southern Dakelh announced they were joining together to ban all LEH for moose within their respective territories.

A map included with the press release showed an area spanning from Prince George and Vanderhoof in the north, to Valemount in the east, west to just east of Bella Coola, and southwest of Willams Lake and 100 Mile House to areas surrounding Tl’esqox, Riske Creek, Tl’etinqox, Alexis Creek, Xeni Gwet’in, Nemiah Valley, Ulkatcho and Anahim Lake.

They cited the impact of wildfires making moose more vulnerable to hunters and predation, and that LEH permits were issued without their consent.

Read more: B.C. Interior First Nations announce limited-entry moose hunt ban

When asked about the impact of wildfires on moose populations, the ministry noted analysis of the effects of the 2017 wildfires are consistent with prevailing science that suggests wildlife populations are not significantly impacted by wildfires, and any wildlife mortality directly related to fires is considered to be outweighed by the long-term benefits of wildfire to habitat and wildlife.

The province does prescribed burns frequently in areas to improve wildlife habitat and thus benefit population growth, the spokesperson said, adding when the 2017 Plateau fires in the Chilcotin were aerially surveyed it showed ungulates remaining in newly burnt landscapes.

“In Zone 5-13A — 60 per cent of which was in the fire perimeter, surveys comparing moose densities before and after the wildfire showed moose populations remained stable.”

Additionally, surveys following the 2017 Elephant Hill Fire did not notice a change in moose numbers within the burn and some of the highest densities observed were within the burn.

Nevertheless, as a precaution, additional reductions to LEH in the Chilcotin were implemented to address the removal of security cover and the potential for increased hunter success as a result of the 2017 wildfires.

In 2017, the fall moose hunt was cancelled in Cariboo wildfire zones west of Quesnel and Williams Lake affecting an area north of Highway 20 and west of Williams Lake and Quesnel.
 
c262 coming to all of you and us very soon ...

Bingo. Note the article above your post - “the province is committed to the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous People”. As I said in the Yukon thread, this is the beginning.
 
A buddy of mine who works at the SRD (Alberta Sustainable Resource Development) in Alberta, says the provincial government is looking at a pilot project by allowing the local native groups to manage all crown land hunting and fishing. Meaning that you will apply and receive your hunting and fishing licences from them, the thought being that this will provide another revenue stream for local bands. He did not know if this also include enforcement responsibilities, looks like big changes maybe coming.
 
A buddy of mine who works at the SRD (Alberta Sustainable Resource Development) in Alberta, says the provincial government is looking at a pilot project by allowing the local native groups to manage all crown land hunting and fishing. Meaning that you will apply and receive your hunting and fishing licences from them, the thought being that this will provide another revenue stream for local bands. He did not know if this also include enforcement responsibilities, looks like big changes maybe coming.

So the natives should get a new revenue stream, instead of that money going to conservation efforts (or general revenue for the province, that's where most of BCs license money goes)? That makes total sense....
 
We should all continue to hunt our traditional hunting areas regardless. ..what's good for one is good for all!
What could they do if there was mass non compliance. ..maybe that would send the message home.
 
A buddy of mine who works at the SRD (Alberta Sustainable Resource Development) in Alberta, says the provincial government is looking at a pilot project by allowing the local native groups to manage all crown land hunting and fishing. Meaning that you will apply and receive your hunting and fishing licences from them, the thought being that this will provide another revenue stream for local bands. He did not know if this also include enforcement responsibilities, looks like big changes maybe coming.

So the biggest poachers decide who gets to hunt, I can see this as being real fair.....
 
Hahahaha hahahahaha hahahaha haha haha hah


I'll never let natives decide what and when I hunt. I have access to 500+ acres on land we own outright. Never gonna happen.


Also the ndp are gone next year. Ucp won't let natives control crown land.
 
We should all continue to hunt our traditional hunting areas regardless. ..what's good for one is good for all!
What could they do if there was mass non compliance. ..maybe that would send the message home.

They don't have enough officers to enforce anything. Look at all the poaching that goes on already.
 
These are all provincial jurisdiction issues, no? I would think JT has very little to do with it, and Scheer won't do jack about it either I'd be willing to bet.

Exactly correct. Participate in provincial elections people, and don’t burn your vote, all the “I’ll-show-Harper” folks must be kicking themselves in the nuts now
 
These are all provincial jurisdiction issues, no? I would think JT has very little to do with it, and Scheer won't do jack about it either I'd be willing to bet.

With Justin’s full and unconditional support for Bill C262 he is making it much easier for natives to increase their say in pretty much every aspect of our lives. The bill passed 3rd reading on May 30 and is in front of the senate for second reading right now. I can’t see how it avoids becoming law. Add that to Pierre Trudeau’s legacy with respect to enshrining aboriginal rights in the Constitution and the future looks bleak.
 
Most of the so called native territory, is owned by white farmers and ranchers,for over a 150 years, The only land that is native is the reserves. Try and stop hunters from hunting legal game, on private or Crown land. They have reserve land, let them poach, moose, bear, deer, there.
 
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