SXS Upland Gun Advice

Are Savage Fox side x side made in America? I know its a Savage but those Fox side x side are nice guns. $5000 for one so you could get two of them new. If its made in American, then this gun meets all your requirements.

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Buy a magazine called “Double Gun Journal” hopefully it’s still in print. Costly at about 20$(4 per year) This will give you quite the eye opener. Printed in the States I think Mich.
 
The Savage Fox new model is made by Connecticut Shotgun, and unrelated to real Fox guns. It is derrived from the RBL series of guns.
 
saskbooknut said:
The Savage Fox new model is made by Connecticut Shotgun, and unrelated to real Fox guns. It is derrived from the RBL series of guns.
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Well then that means its made in America. The gun matches every requirement asked for and can have two for that $10,000 budget. Will go over a bit with tax and all but yea could get a 20 gauge and 12 gauge set.
 
Mumbles Marble Mouth said:
Well then that means its made in America. The gun matches every requirement asked for and can have two for that $10,000 budget. Will go over a bit with tax and all but yea could get a 20 gauge and 12 gauge set.
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As long as you can live with the uncertainty of quality of a gun built by CSMC. The shotgun sites have quite a few negative reviews of QC and returned guns.
 
45CAT said:
Buy a magazine called “Double Gun Journal” hopefully it’s still in print. Costly at about 20$(4 per year) This will give you quite the eye opener. Printed in the States I think Mich.
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I have every issue but three since it started in 1989. It's a Master's course on vintage SxS shotguns and rifles.
 
It is a tough search for a nice double under 10,000. I eventually came to the conclusion the used market was a bit of a krapshoot and I didn't know enough about it to judge what was or wasn't a good deal on a vintage gun. I found it difficult to come up with one that had the right stock dims and the features I liked. Even in the new market, the brands available out there are limited to an extent, all there really seems to be are the Italian or German or French guns. CSMC does seem to be a krapshoot, there are AYA's and Uggies out there still that are nice, but, not quite there for what I wanted.
I don't think it would be a waste to investigate ordering a gun from Beretta or Chapuis or Verney-Carron or Merkel. There are many custom features that they will add on, that they do not commonly show, except on an order sheet or in their galleries. A 486 with DT's and sidelocks would likely bust the budget, but the other three may stay in there for you, and it costs you nothing but time and thought to investigate that.
 
209jones said:
It is a tough search for a nice double under 10,000. I eventually came to the conclusion the used market was a bit of a krapshoot and I didn't know enough about it to judge what was or wasn't a good deal on a vintage gun. I found it difficult to come up with one that had the right stock dims and the features I liked. Even in the new market, the brands available out there are limited to an extent, all there really seems to be are the Italian or German or French guns. CSMC does seem to be a krapshoot, there are AYA's and Uggies out there still that are nice, but, not quite there for what I wanted.
I don't think it would be a waste to investigate ordering a gun from Beretta or Chapuis or Verney-Carron or Merkel. There are many custom features that they will add on, that they do not commonly show, except on an order sheet or in their galleries. A 486 with DT's and sidelocks would likely bust the budget, but the other three may stay in there for you, and it costs you nothing but time and thought to investigate that.
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Thank you for this. I agree- it is harder than one thinks because it is a price point where making a mistake isn't an option but there is a lot of crap unless you buy new and even new you don't want to make a mistake.

I have no idea what I am doing. I know what I like but thanks to this website I am making some correct inquiries and some members of the site have private messaged me with some very helpful info.

it is like buying a classic car, of which I own many....you really need to know what you are doing OR rely on someone who really knows or you can get hurt. Especially once you get into the $$ realm where you can make serious mistakes.

Classic cars, generally I am good with....classic shotgun SXS...not so much!

Thank you.
 
Francotte 16!!!!!!!! Or Masquelier and a couple of other fine Belgian makers that I am still trying to accumulate. They are often very well made and balanced guns and cheaper than the British names.
 
Yes, a nice higher grade Belgian gun would be attractive, but then you are still facing the challenge of sorting the diamond from the dross. There are lots of JABC (Just another Belgian clunker) out there.

If the OP is not confident enough to do the selection himself, the first search should be for a qualified double gun advisor to assist with inspection of a prospective gun.
 
I bought a gun......stay tuned!

we will post up some pics once it passes the inspection process and I take delivery.
I am probably going to buy another one as well....this is addictive....
 
Melvin said:
Francotte 16!!!!!!!! Or Masquelier and a couple of other fine Belgian makers that I am still trying to accumulate. They are often very well made and balanced guns and cheaper than the British names.
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I've got a Defourny in getting some rehab work with Chris Dawe. He texted me yesterday to say it's one of the finest handling guns he's ever picked up and the workmanship inside is top notch. Nice to get confirmation that my interest in Belgians is justified. They don't cost a lot. You just have to know how to separate the wheat from the chaff.
 
1963beretta said:
What did you do James????
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LOL, Don't worry, I'm in the buying mood, not the selling mood. I'm just pretty sure AR15meister is going to like his new gun! I think he made an excellent choice. You guys will see it soon enough. But here's a tease.....that will likely be just the beginning.
 
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