Source of .30-'03 Brass

Sharps '74

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A friend has a Win '95 chambered in .30-'03 that he wants to shoot. He doesn't have the interest in fire forming it. Buffalo Arms offers it, but I believe that brass cannot be exported. Am I right?

BACO recommends going thru' IRUNGUNS. Anybody got a comment/suggestion?

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So it says in COTW. That means it can go in the opposite direction and be close enough for government work. My friend just doesn't want to do the fireforming. He's both a rancher and a licenced guide. I'm going to suggest that he have a US client bring some into the country.

It's pricey, but if you want it, you ante up.
 
I believe you can chamber and fire a 30-06 in a 30-03 chamber without problems. You then have fire formed 30-03 cases for reloading. The 30-03 has a slightly longer neck. You may have trouble finding 30-03 dies though and forget about finding complete 30-03 cartridges.
 
This is correct.

If I'm not mistaken, the only difference between 3006 and 3003 is a few mm in length?

While the .30-'06 can be fired in a .30-'03 chamber, the chamber of the .30-'03 has a long throat to accommodate the long 220 gr RN bullet it was designed to shoot. Accuracy is reputed to suffer as a result. The US Army recalled .30-'03 rifles, lopping off the end of the barrels and rechambering them to .30-'06 dimensions.

I've already stated that my friend is not interested in fireforming cases. Custom dies are available from at least two sources.
 
This is purely speculation, but I'd bet passing it through a regular 3006 die will neck it up to 30cal and likely usable from there.

You can easily neck up a 270 case, I've done this myself. Turning 270 cases into 30-06 with the proper full length sizing die is super simple. One pass should do it. I've never had neck split issues either but if you're concerned, you could anneal the necks before resizing.
 
You can easily neck up a 270 case, I've done this myself. Turning 270 cases into 30-06 with the proper full length sizing die is super simple. One pass should do it. I've never had neck split issues either but if you're concerned, you could anneal the necks before resizing.

Oh I knew necking up was possible, I wasn't sure if you'll get usable 3003 brass from 270win run through a 3006 die.
 
There is no need to fireform at all. Like others have said just shoot 30-06 in it as they measure the same except neck length and it matters not.

Some people just like to re-invent the wheel! The neck of the 30-03 is 70 thousands of an inch longer than the 30-06. Other than that the dimensions are the same. Think shooting 38 Special in a 357 Magnum. An added benefit is that you won't have to worry about trimming the case!
 
Case length aside, did you guys miss the part where I mentioned the longer throat of the '03 chamber to accommodate 220 gr bullets? Shooting a .30-'06 rd in an '03 chamber results in poor accuracy due to the long throat, at least according to the 'sperts on the net. Makes you wonder why the long throated Weatherby chambers shoot so well .....

A friend had a Farmingdale Sharps '74 45-70 with a long throated chamber, allegedly for paper patched bullets. Being recoil shy, he shot 405 gr bullets almost exclusivley. He was quite happy with the results.

I suppose one could seat bullets out in '06 brass, especially if they were 220 grs. Sounds like a good use for 220 gr cast bullets. It isn't a question of "re-inventing the wheel", so much as getting an old rifle back in the game.

A while back I took a look at the specs of .44 Russian brass compared to 44-40. Up to the first shoulder of the 44-40 case, the dimensions are a few thou over .44 Russian at the case mouth and close elsewhere. Considering the low power of the round, I thought - what the hell, and tried some in a Uberti 44-40 revolver.

The mavens on CasCity assured me that babies would die, cows would stop giving milk and I'd have case blow by and case splits. Yeah, right .....

Results - excellent accuracy with nil recoil. Slight case deformation and primer hits a little off centre. The fired .44 Russian rds resized perfectly.

Would I do this on a regular basis? No, but it was good to know that in a pinch, it could work.
 
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Case length aside, did you guys miss the part where I mentioned the longer throat of the '03 chamber to accommodate 220 gr bullets? Shooting a .30-'06 rd in an '03 chamber results in poor accuracy due to the long throat, at least according to the 'sperts on the net. Makes you wonder why the long throated Weatherby chambers shoot so well .....

seat 220 grain bullets to the same COAL as the 30-03 and you replicate the round exactly!

it's not rocket surgery

for my 35Whelen, I just pop 270win into the chamber and shoot it! Out pops a fireformed 35Whelen with a different head marking
 
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