NR for dangerous game in Ontario

I'm gettin' too old for that sort of play... too busy debating with people that actually know what they are talking about... when the line of reality is razor thin, that is fun... not trying to convince a faceless digital entity that a little green frog ain't a dump truck.

and getting the info i require despite the the loose nutz, ...kinda similar to buying a new rifle, the warranty is 30 seconds or 30 feet (wise cracks and whiners), which ever comes first,....the QA/QC on most is done from a person with a patch on one and is blind in another (everyone is an expert except me; far from that but willing to learn and have to sift through the BS and horse pucks).
 
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Well maybe if you sat in the corner and were quite and listened to people with ACTUAL experience instead of quoting chuck up.....just saying

quiet does not get questions answered..with different info/scenarios...just sayin....("quiet" is the word i think you were looking for)
 
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I'm gettin' too old for that sort of play... too busy debating with people that actually know what they are talking about... when the line of reality is razor thin, that is fun... not trying to convince a faceless digital entity that a little green frog ain't a dump truck.

Yup ....... Employing ignore function.
 
Many carry short barreled shotguns in Canada for bear protection because of the legal constraints on handguns.
Those short barreled shotguns usually come with an interchangeable full butt stock and a pistol grip handle.
Are they non-restricted or restricted in the pistol grip configuration?
 
Many carry short barreled shotguns in Canada for bear protection because of the legal constraints on handguns.
Those short barreled shotguns usually come with an interchangeable full butt stock and a pistol grip handle.
Are they non-restricted or restricted in the pistol grip configuration?

From what I've observed around here, the popularity of shotguns for bear defense is primarily for two reasons, first is they are cheap, a used pump in decent condition can be had for a couple of hundred dollars, a bit less if its beat up a bit, no handgun or rifle worth owning can match the price point, although occasionally you see rifles that aren't worth owning, with badly rusted bores, broken or missing sights, wired or duct-taped stocks, sideline slings and so on. Secondly, less lethal ammo can be used in a 12 ga, something that cannot be conveniently done with a handgun or rifle.

The classification of a shotgun is not dependent upon it's stock design, provided the minimum 26" OAL is adhered to. IMHO, a pistol grip only configured 20" shotgun with a full length magazine is a miserable excuse for a self defense gun, where the simple addition of a buttstock makes the pistol grip equipped shotgun viable.
 
I’m sure with practice you would get proficient with a pistol grip only shotgun, personally I’d take the full stock with a pistol grip over just the pistol grip. A birdshead grip I might consider but I’d have to shoot one first.
 
12 ga shotgun with slugs for sure. Benefit is that it is non-restricted, relatively easy to acquire, cheap, lots of ammo options - and very effective at short ranges!
 
I’m sure with practice you would get proficient with a pistol grip only shotgun, personally I’d take the full stock with a pistol grip over just the pistol grip. A birdshead grip I might consider but I’d have to shoot one first.

Hey....I'll bite.
Post me a video of what you can hit from the hip with a pistol grip shotgun or a mares leg.
Do it with a target coming at you at 20 mph face on.
Don't crap your drawers while filming.
No insult intended but they are the most useless combo's ever invented, unless you are Steve McQueen.. and you are not.
 
I carry a full stocked Ranch Hand in .45 Colt, 250 gr hard cast @ 1800fps. Burris FFIII and optional flashlight for night time dog walking on Pearson rail. I have never had to shoot a bear in my close up encounters with them but have shot a couple of deer just to try it out on animals. Very effective and very easy to carry with a single point sling. Cheap to reload for if you cast your own but even buying cast bullets is not very expensive. A .44 Mag would probably be as good but I liked .45.
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Mares leg with hot .38s and a red dot on the longest picatinny rail that will fit on top of it.

I carry a full stocked Ranch Hand in .45 Colt, 250 gr hard cast @ 1800fps. Burris FFIII and optional flashlight for night time dog walking on Pearson rail. I have never had to shoot a bear in my close up encounters with them but have shot a couple of deer just to try it out on animals. Very effective and very easy to carry with a single point sling. Cheap to reload for if you cast your own but even buying cast bullets is not very expensive. A .44 Mag would probably be as good but I liked .45.
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I do believe... they call that foreshadowing. If you’ll excuse me I have a game to bet on with my newfound abilities.
 
I carry a full stocked Ranch Hand in .45 Colt, 250 gr hard cast @ 1800fps. Burris FFIII and optional flashlight for night time dog walking on Pearson rail. I have never had to shoot a bear in my close up encounters with them but have shot a couple of deer just to try it out on animals. Very effective and very easy to carry with a single point sling. Cheap to reload for if you cast your own but even buying cast bullets is not very expensive. A .44 Mag would probably be as good but I liked .45.

I love my 45 Colt Ranch Hand & push hard cast 250 & 300 gr at 1400 fps. I fitted 'er with an XS ghost ring rear sight & a Marbles front. No sling needed fer me as it's so light to carry in the woods. Solid performer on critters inside 80 yds.;)

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