NR for dangerous game in Ontario

Yes, as well as a lot of cartridge choices.
I can also shoot flares out of my 7mm and 308.
I found a place that had some in various calibers.
 
elimsprint said:
I carry a full stocked Ranch Hand in .45 Colt, 250 gr hard cast @ 1800fps. Burris FFIII and optional flashlight for night time dog walking on Pearson rail. I have never had to shoot a bear in my close up encounters with them but have shot a couple of deer just to try it out on animals. Very effective and very easy to carry with a single point sling. Cheap to reload for if you cast your own but even buying cast bullets is not very expensive. A .44 Mag would probably be as good but I liked .45.
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250gr at 1800fps. Inst that a little on the hot side? I dont own a 45colt so havent looked up the data
 
DOUGLAS D said:
Hey....I'll bite.
Post me a video of what you can hit from the hip with a pistol grip shotgun or a mares leg.
Do it with a target coming at you at 20 mph face on.
Don't crap your drawers while filming.
No insult intended but they are the most useless combo's ever invented, unless you are Steve McQueen.. and you are not.
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I have owned several pistol gripped guns and although i dont shoot from the hip they can be used very well if you know how to run them. I use a canuck regulator with the birds head grip 13" and mod choke and break 21 or 22 out of 25 on the skeet field. 23 to 24 with the full stock on it. I shoot at eye level. The best way is to pull with the trigger hand and push with the support hand using your support hand to point.
 
Since you are using it for Protection, just like I do when I'm in the bush. The biggest {dangerous} thing you will encounter - IF at all- is a Black bear. I carry a Sub2k in 9mm-Yes, if you put 147gr hard cast bullets made by Buffalo Bore x 10rnds, or 13 if you use a .40 mag, right. Its light & quick & you can get off allot of rounds Fast. The Buffalo Bore are designed to penetrate DEEP into the target/flesh etc. Remember, an Alaskan Scout took down a Pretty large Grizzly with a 9mm not long ago, using the Buffalo Bore 9mm rounds. Here, no Brown/Grizz to worry about- Black bear/wolf/coyote, you will prob NEVER have an encounter. Couple black bears Ive seen, not too huge,maybe 300lbs at most.*EDIT-I just read that in Ontario, average Male black bear weighs just 250lbs. Females over 100lbs Less- So ones Ive seen were prob not even 300lbs.* Nothing the Buffalo Bore cant handle there "This bullet is designed to crush through a large bear skull, coming and going". Yes, then can be bigger, maybe 450/500lbs. Not like a Grizz @ 1000 lbs++ & more to worry about. Some bear spray & a sub2k has it's benefits. {light weight, compact, fun/cheap to plink with, & you can get the 147grn Buffalo Bore's, you can get this ammo @ Wanstalls. I also have a Mars leg in .357 I sometimes take instead. Since there is 2 of you, one 9mm w/ the Buffalo Bores & one .357 maybe.
https://www.wideopenspaces.com/alaska-man-kills-charging-brown-bear-with-a-9mm-pistol/
 
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brybenn said:
250gr at 1800fps. Inst that a little on the hot side? I dont own a 45colt so havent looked up the data
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I haven't chronoed my 45 Ranch hand, but I get 1400 out of my 44 Blackhawk and it’s 7 1/2” barrel with 1 grain less powder than I use in the Ranch Hand. I’ll try to remember to chrono it and report back. I don’t have any other 45 colt guns to mix the ammo up with.
 
DOUGLAS D said:
Hey....I'll bite.
Post me a video of what you can hit from the hip with a pistol grip shotgun or a mares leg.
Do it with a target coming at you at 20 mph face on.
Don't crap your drawers while filming.
No insult intended but they are the most useless combo's ever invented, unless you are Steve McQueen.. and you are not.
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I don’t own one, or a mares leg. Like I said, I’ll take a full stock with a pistol grip over just a pistol grip. That I do have and it’s easy to get on target with, I’m sure though you could with practice get fairly good with a pistol grip only shotgun if you really tried.
 
brybenn said:
250gr at 1800fps. Inst that a little on the hot side? I dont own a 45colt so havent looked up the data
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It's a rifle that has been chambered for 454 Casull so no, it's not all that hot for these guns. I am using the max load as published by the powder manufacturer for a handgun that is supposed to do about 1400 @ 30,000 psi from a 7.5" revolver and this is a 12" rifle. I have read of much hotter rifle specific loads using other powders. http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/45coltlevergun.htm A 300 grainer @2180, that's hot!
 
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For 'that' region of ON. you would def want most powerful NR in your arsenal. At least a .44 Magnum Carbine/Mars leg.{with Bear load} Personally, unfortunately, I dont have one, so a 357 with the Buffalo Bore or HSM 357 Magnum 180 grain Bear Loads, {maybe a tad weak?} a 12 Gauge {most logical?} or a NR semi in .5.56{62Grn Green tips perhaps} What would be the safest bet? For the OP, {lucky} he is not anywhere near there in his scenario. Would a .44 Mag out of a carbine, be enough to stop an Angry/Hungry Polar Bear? Pretty sure Polar bears eat more Humans than Brown bears do. :p
 
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elimsprint said:
It's a rifle that has been chambered for 454 Casull so no, it's not all that hot for these guns. I am using the max load as published by the powder manufacturer for a handgun that is supposed to do about 1400 @ 30,000 psi from a 7.5" revolver and this is a 12" rifle. I have read of much hotter rifle specific loads using other powders. http://www.leverguns.com/articles/paco/45coltlevergun.htm A 300 grainer @2180, that's hot!
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Ok. Thanks. I was just curious as i was thinking about picking up a 41 mag in a lever gun and the specs seemed close to published data for a 20" barrel and the 41mag operates at higher pressure
300 at 2180 is 4570 territory. Thats insane for such a small case
 
westcoaster said:
How true.
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I grew up in the Orillia area. I grew up hearing that area referred to as 'central' Ontario. An ex girlfriend's father lived in New Liskard. She considered THAT central Ontario. We established together that Southern Ontario is where you stop seeing only deer crossing signs and start seeing moose crossing signs. The area where you see both is central. Moose crossing only is Northern.
 
BullOnParade said:
I grew up in the Orillia area. I grew up hearing that area referred to as 'central' Ontario. An ex girlfriend's father lived in New Liskard. She considered THAT central Ontario. We established together that Southern Ontario is where you stop seeing only deer crossing signs and start seeing moose crossing signs. The area where you see both is central. Moose crossing only is Northern.
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I currently live in New Liskeard and don't consider it North.

Ah well two more months and then back to BC.
 
yomomma said:
To most people living in northern ontario, sudbury is southern ontario.
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You can make that point geographically, but not by population... at least, I would appreciate if we considered population... I would like to continue referring to my residence as "Northern Ontario..." It differentiates a certain mentality.
 
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