what's the lightest mono-metal bullet you'd use on moose

[powdermaker]

The lightest and fastest big game mono-bullet that I've used is the 80 Gr TTSX taken up to 3950 in a .257 Weatherby. Used it on cull for long enough to know that it's as useless as tits on a boar. Oh, sure it will kill things and with a tracking dog you'll probably even find them. Deadly as leukemia and about as slow. Contrast that to bonded and C&C bullets that make a .257 'bee a lightning bolt with a trigger.

There isn't enough speed in the world to make a mono the equal of an appropriate lead core bullet, if dropping game is the goal.

Don't hold back....why don't you tell us exactly what you think?

 

[todbartell]

The lightest and fastest big game mono-bullet that I've used is the 80 Gr TTSX taken up to 3950 in a .257 Weatherby. Used it on cull for long enough to know that it's as useless as tits on a boar. Oh, sure it will kill things and with a tracking dog you'll probably even find them.

Little dramatic? Probably had a handful that did a death sprint

 

[emerson]

Agreed... until shot placement is off the mark... and then the weight of the bullet (momentum) can be a significant factor.

I also have some reservations about light mono metals when in big bear country. 2 moose I lung shot with 150 GMX launched around 3000FPS died just fine but although we can no longer hunt grizzlies in BC being able to kill one when I’m hunting thick low visibility bush has moved me to heavier cup and core bullets from bigger calibers.

 

[KodiakHntr]

54. That shoot was taking out female fallows and reds, plus a few selected undesirables. Two of us took out 500 in 7 days, which was a pretty good time unless you were one of the deer.

I’m sure that you have probably mentioned this elsewhere, but can you reiterate shop placement, angles, anything that might be germane to the discussion? I’ve long want a 257 Weatherby, but just never really could justify it with the overlap I already have in the cabinet.

Thanks

 

[Dogleg]

I’m sure that you have probably mentioned this elsewhere, but can you reiterate shop placement, angles, anything that might be germane to the discussion? I’ve long want a 257 Weatherby, but just never really could justify it with the overlap I already have in the cabinet.

Thanks

On that trip we were taking our shots much like any hunter would, shoulders preferred, ribs and lungs second choice, angles as necessary.Heads and necks when expedient or when a spotter asked for them. We weren't held to head shots like they were so were freed up to shoot farther than the "night shift".

I like the .257 Weatherby, but its not an unconditional love. For instance if you don't mind sitting through a bit more recoil, a 270 Weatherby and a small handful of others will do everything it will do and more. I seldom took it past 600 with 700 being where I drew my line in the mud. 300 was a short shot.

 

[Dogleg]

double

 

[hoytcanon]

I also have some reservations about light mono metals when in big bear country. 2 moose I lung shot with 150 GMX launched around 3000FPS died just fine but although we can no longer hunt grizzlies in BC being able to kill one when I’m hunting thick low visibility bush has moved me to heavier cup and core bullets from bigger calibers.

That is also my inclination in similar circumstances... .350 Rem Mag guide rifle with 250 Partitions or .375 H&H with 300 Partitions, either over a stuffed case... they won't let you down. I have no problem at all shooting monometals under the right circumstances from the right cartridges (ones with enough speed)... the GMX has done a good job on a few deer for me.

 

[BigUglyMan]

Depends on calibre. Sectional density is also important for penetration.

This. There is a huge difference between a 120gr .257" bullet and a 120gr .308" bullet.

 

[MiG25]

This. There is a huge difference between a 120gr .257" bullet and a 120gr .308" bullet.

What is the sectional density of an expanded 257 vs 308 both at 120 grains?

 

[brybenn]

3700fps is pretty darn fast... Any concern you might shed petals at that speed?

Shooting 40 yards into sand they came apart above 3500fps. I havent shot them into anything else to comfirm. Ran out of time to play. Ive seen several tsx and ttsx failures to trust monos on game. Ill continue to play around once i get time. If i can recover 20 bullets in water after smashing thru a deers shoulders bone i might considering using one. Theyre sure hard on watermelons

If they do come apart they should still kill whitetail cleanly. Especailly with shorter shots