ThatM305Guy
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Um......yeah that's a hard no hahaha
Modern Sporters starting to ship
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Um......yeah that's a hard no hahaha
Its just way easier and cheaper for me to get someone else to do it. By the time I get an air compressor, hvlp sparygun , oven, sand blasting cabinet, acetone and the cerakote it's self I can get 8 guns done at 250 a pop
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- calgary alberta
We can do the CeraKote work for you. IF we know in advance we will not oil the parts which then saves having to bead blast off the anodizing to apply the CeraKote.
The process is easier and the CeraKote adheres better to the anodized aluminum that it will to bead blasting off the anodizing, which is done to increase the surface hardness of the aluminum.
What oil are you using that it can't be stripped off with strong solvents? Is this a separate thing you do from the dye/sealing process applied to the raw anodizing?
Does it prevent other paints from adhering?
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- calgary alberta
Yes it is. When we get anodized parts back they look a little cloudy which is normal, we use a silicone based penetrating oil to "final" seal the anodizing which gives the parts the nice black look.
It can be removed by soaking in a couple of acetone baths prior to CeraKote, I say a couple as just 1 will leave some residue from the oil coming off in the bath, so a second soak or rinse in virgin acetone is recommended. If we know in advance though we can save a guy some hassle by not oiling the parts, then a quick bath in acetone and you are ready to apply the CeraKote.
Okay, so you don't really "need" to bead blast off the anodizing to get rid of the oil, I was wondering wtf kind of magic fairy oil you were using to have to bead blast it off.
I was getting worried about my future megatastic paintjob plans.
A guy has to let you know before you receive his stuff from anodizing.
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- calgary alberta
Talking with a couple other CeraKote applicators who are more recent in being taught the application techniques that we are, blasting is required, which I agree with TO A DEGREE. This is where common sense comes into play, and we all know common sense is an endangered species. IF the parts have been used and lubricated repeatedly, then yes bead blasting after de-greasing followed by an acetone bath IS best. HOWEVER blasting can or will, depending on how aggressive the blasting is done remove the aluminum oxide layer that anodizing creates on the substrate to impart surface hardness. Also blasting will alter tolerances slightly as you are removing material.
On a virgin part that has not been exposed to repeated oiling, or better yet not oiled at all, the CeraKote will adhere perfectly and in some cases better to the raw anodized surface which has a perfect degree of "bite" for the coating to adhere to. A short acetone bath followed by a few hours of low heat to cook off any acetone that penetrates the pores of the substrate and you are good to go to coating stage.
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- calgary alberta
That would be our recommendation if your plan is to coat them right away, or as mentioned let us know and we will not oil yours when we get the parts back from ano.
And if we don't plan to coat them right away?
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- calgary alberta
Are you planning to run the gun for a while once you get an upper and the rest of the parts, then coat it? Being as uppers are still about 2 months out for the slickside version and several months out for the F/A version, storing the lower either as it comes back from ano or even after we "finish" oil it, won't make any difference, so you can follow the previously posted instaructions.
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- calgary alberta
The first production run of Modern Sporter receiver sets is completely sold out and we are currently accepting orders for the second production run. Now that we have the first run of lowers completed, we still have to make slick side uppers followed by forward assist uppers. Because of this we are anticipating starting the second run of lowers in early spring of 2019 (approximately). Followed again but runs of both styles of uppers.
We will start new production run of each part as soon as possible but it is impossible to provide exact dates for completion of each.
We have started production of the slick side uppers to go with the currently sold lowers, we anticipate these being done before the end of the year. Then we start to manufacture the F/A upper which we expect to have done either late March or early April at which point we will then start on lowers again, which should be done by July.
To keep a cycle of complete receiver sets getting out we are limiting production runs to about 200 to 250 pieces of each, and are shipping on a first come first served basis for each part.
So far our predicted target dates have been achieved and we do not foresee this changing. Production run #2 is just over 85% sold as of today.
If you are interested in proceeding orders can be placed directly on our website here: https://albertatacticalrifle.com/hi...dern-sporter-receiver-set/category_pathway-14
Thank you! Great detailed answer!!
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- calgary alberta
If you are asking can or will we CeraKote uppers and lowers, yes on an individual basis so you can choose the colors. We have been providing CeraKote services for many years now.
IF I misunderstood your question and you are asking whether we will ever just CeraKote with no anodizing for surface hardness as some manufacturers do, the answer is NO.
We believe in providing the highest quality products possible and cutting a significant corner by using only a spray on coating as the only form of wear and corrosion protection and to hide tooling marks is not something we will not do.
Thanks for your reply, I got in on the second round of orders and would like mine to be cerakoted like described earlier in this thread (after anodizing, Before oiling). Maybe a bit premature seeing as how it's about 5ish months away before production on the second round begins.
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- calgary alberta
No problem, please be sure to let us know this so we can add a note to your invoice to reflect you are not wanting the parts oiled.
That's probably what is going to happen since it will be way too cold to do a proper paintjob outside when the uppers are ready. Can't ventilate a room for days on end in the winter to deal with the evaporating compounds while the paint cures.
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Maybe I haven't read the right thread but it says first to contact to discuss shipping then says not to contact unless you are notified that your receiver is done then later in this thread it says all receiver are complete. Question: Should I be emailing to have my receiver shipped or did I miss a notification that mine is done? Sorry if this is addressed elsewhere.
