The Robinson Armament XCR-M, SCAR Killer?

Liked my XCR-M .308 so much I got the XCR-L Comp .223 Wylde and 6.5 Grendel no problems shoot tight groups and both triggers are like a two stage 4.5lbs on final let off with no over travel , double taps at two hundred are within two inches of each other with both
If it was not for the restricted thing I would not own an AR, had so many problems with it.
Just save the dough and buy one you will not be disappointed:)
 
I have an XCR-L keymod in 7.62*39 and love it. My only complaint is the stupid front takedown pin.
Why they wouldn't have made a captured pin is beyond me.
Love the ergos and the bolt release will spoil you.
 
frabill said:
XCR with the ACR stock looks perfect.
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I agree. Since I added the ACR stock, the only thing I don't like about my 9"-barreled M is the hokey barrel-retention setup. If they went with something more like the ACR barrel retention, the XCR would be a great gun. As it is, it's a pretty good gun.
 
Arm&Gun said:
In my opinion, I would say definitely upgrade your model to keymod/mlok and maybe a light barrel, but don't abandon the platform. The Stag is wicked for Canada and I'm doing a build too, but not at the expense of my xcr. If I could only have one gun, it would be a xcr. Honestly as far as I'm concerned the xcr offers everything the stag does, but in a far more modern and refined package. Again I don't know if the same accuracy is possible, so if you plan is an ultra accurate, long range semi auto rig - maybe go Stag, but for anything else I would take the xcr every time. The ergo's are amazing. They're the one gun I don't do anything to. No bad lever, or ambi short throw safety, or aftermarket charging handle; everything's perfect out of the box. Non recip charging handle, full monolithic upper with uninterrupted pic rail, folds out of the box and is fully functional while folded. Would be nice to have more trigger options, but it's probably the best factory trigger I've used, and I've heard RobArms has recently been looking into more aftermarket trigger options for their platform.

Dead nuts reliable (in my experience, and with cheap surplus/steel ammo). I've played with the stocks, but I just like variety in that respect, and they pop on and off with one bolt so it's super simple. You can still swap uppers just as easily as an AR can, with the added benefit of swapping barrels too.

Personally, I think these are highly underrated in both Canada and the states. A youtube channel called Small Arms Solutions has reviewed almost all the high end modern semi's and even did one on the xcr platform. He had the same opinion; that the XCR was highly underrated and unfortunately seemed to be the industry's "best kept secret". I would have been skeptical of his opinion if that was the only video I'd watched, but I got a bit sucked in and watched a bunch. He knows his stuff. Definitely worth a watch given there's an apparent lack of reliable reviews on the XCR out there.

I have more than my fair share of modern semi's, and the XCR would be the last one I'd let go of. Not in terms of rarity or collectability (not particularly hard to replace being an in-production gun), but as a do-all gun that's still one of the most fun to shoot. ie if the government could actually take away all but one of my guns, this is the one I would hang onto.
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Anyone else have opiniona on the XCR compared to the Stag 10? I was really looking into buying a Stag until I saw this thread. Thanks OP.
 
CaptainGoose, all the comments here are nothing comparing to when you actually hold, shoot and feel the ergonomics of XCR platform, spoils you bad lol, especially the newer models like 2017 and up, it's far from sporting rifle, this thing is made for war. When I purchased AR-10 types before I always needed spare part kits. With XCR platform Robinson Armament staff said I don't need any parts, the rifle is complete and ready for hell and back, shoot it, shoot it and have lots of fun with it, it's impervious to types of ammo, shoots sub MOA groups with quality ammo, etc (read all three parts of the review again and slowly contemplate all review steps done by the author of the article)...my 2 cents.
One more thought to ad, if you are a reloader, XCR is very mild on brass at medium to lower gas setting, no difference comparing to bolt rifles, other semi-auto platforms will chew it up and spit it out damaged to various degrees.
 
Thanks anton! The more I am reading into this rifle the more I like it. What is the difference between the newer 2017 models and the previous ones? I just started watching some youtube videos on this gun and looked at a few ads of people selling their XCRs here on CGN.

 
2017 updates from the web :
"One thing the XCR brings to the table that I have discussed before is a shelf in the bolt carrier, which prevents the bolt from trying to complete its turning move before it can lock, which reduces friction and greatly eases feeding", other improvement is updated "accuracy capability" which is available for installation in older models for a fee, added quick caliber exchange options, etc... If you're buying an XCR here on CGN just verify that the rifle is newer model and hasn't been torture tested, buying from a member who has excellent feedback from other members is usually a good start.
 
The XCR is a decent rifle, but I wouldn't take one over my ACR in the lighter calibers, hense why I sold my keymod XCR as soon as I got the ACR.

For .308 sized rifles the Massoud/KRG Fox-42 (.308 ACR) and the SCAR17 are not available in Canada yet, so the XCR-M's only direct competition is the NR AR-10's. If you can't afford both, I would go with the AR10 simply because you are not limited to what the factory will offer and it has a long standing reputation for great accuracy potential. The latter really means alot to me in a .308 platform, and unfortunately this is about the first review I have ever seen to suggest that the XCR is even worth running premium ammo through it, typically its regarded as a modern day main battle rifle and doesn't really fit into the DMR frame work all that well.

Even worse is now Desert Tech has introduced the MDR. It is the ACR and XCR's lost potential realized and improved, as well as accurized, then put in a compact bullpup format. Unfortunately there is the one rifle that should make any non-collector sell off his ACR, XCR, Scar, AR15/10, etc. Its the best of every design with out any of the negatives unless you are incapable of training yourself to load the mag behind the grip. Haha

Personally I am glad RA's XCR is loosing traction in canada do to recent changes in competition, hopefully it will drive them to bring back the m96 stoner 63 clone and actually fullfill their prior commitments to it. Now there is a platform worth having in the collection imo.
 
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Thanks for your opinion onetwentyish! What changes in competition are you talking about?

Some criticisms of the XCR

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The Canadian black rifle market is being turned on its head with cheap NR black rifles of decent quality (WK180c and RDB) and fair priced NR AR10/15's of excellent quality with the introduction of the Stag10 and ATRS MS recievers. Our legislation has artificially gave any platform that was not an AR the uper hand and forced people to try and find the closest thing to an AR that is still NR. The XCR for some time was that rifle and was one of the few factory NR black guns offered in Canada.

I can remember when I joing this forum, about all one had readily available to choose from for modern factory NR black rifles of decent quality was the XCR and Tar21. Most of the NR black rifles available to us today were not here 6 years ago.

Naturally this all leads to increased market competition in our small market and the overpriced proprietary designs will not have as much steam as some of the more established and/or cheaper designs that I have meantioned.
 
I had an XCR-L. Well built rifle. Front end heavy (mine HD the picatinny rails - MLOK would have fixed this) and really really nice factory trigger. If they weren’t so expensive I would buy another one.
 
The XCR is currently non restricted...what are the chances it become prohibited if Bill 71 is adopted ?
I don't mind if it becomes restricted but I am reluctant to invest such an amount if there are chances that it becomes illegal.
I would love to buy one but......
 
trap666 said:
The XCR is currently non restricted...what are the chances it become prohibited if Bill 71 is adopted ?
I don't mind if it becomes restricted but I am reluctant to invest such an amount if there are chances that it becomes illegal.
I would love to buy one but......
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Same as any semi they're all on the hit list.
 
trap666 said:
The XCR is currently non restricted...what are the chances it become prohibited if Bill 71 is adopted ?
I don't mind if it becomes restricted but I am reluctant to invest such an amount if there are chances that it becomes illegal.
I would love to buy one but......
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Buy today, you might not be able to tomorrow. If you avoid purchasing on what if's, they have already won. The single biggest middle finger you can give to those that want these gone is to buy one or multiple NR black rifles if your budget allows.
 
Yes, I do agree as some mentioned about Stag-10, held it my arms and shot some at a local range, very nice finish, close to perfection, tight groups in sub MOA realm, eight star bolt lug, overall nice match rifle that should belong in the range. Hell, it was nice to fondle one, but trying to compare this dainty match queen to a robust, indestructible, AK-47 bolt (three lug beefy bolt) war/battle rifle that spits fire regardless of dirt, mud, fully submerged in water that XCR-M is, would be unfair comparison to both platforms. Stag was such a pretty sight to my old eyes that I felt I should have one just for having good time on the range, but then on the second thought my XCR-M will easily compete against AR's with carefully loaded pet load and stay in sub MOA zone at 100 yards.
With XCR-M platform you can simply carry additional barrel, say 6.5 Creedmoor and change calibers within approx. 10 seconds, same mags will work, endeavor that Stag can only dream about...and yet I would sure put my money down for one of these pretty Stags just because I can, but if forced to keep only one that would be without any shadow of a doubt, the XCR.
That "nutnfancy" video is about the one of the oldest XCR models, ancient history, when XCR was still in its infancy days as it portrays false image of the current production XCR's.
 
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anton520b said:
Yes, I do agree as some mentioned about Stag-10, held it my arms and shot some at a local range, very nice finish, close to perfection, tight groups in sub MOA realm, six star bolt lug, overall nice match rifle that should belong in the range. Hell, it was nice to fondle one, but trying to compare this dainty match queen to a robust, indestructible, AK-47 bolt (three lug beefy bolt) war/battle rifle that spits fire regardless of dirt, mud, fully submerged in water that XCR-M is, would be unfair comparison to both platforms. Stag was such a pretty sight to my old eyes that I felt I should have one just for having good time on the range, but then on the second thought my XCR-M will easily compete against AR's with carefully loaded pet load and stay in sub MOA zone at 100 yards.
With XCR-M platform you can simply carry additional barrel, say 6.5 Creedmoor and change calibers within approx. 10 seconds, same mags will work, endeavor that Stag can only dream about...and yet I would sure put my money down for one of these pretty Stags just because I can, but if forced to keep only one that would be without any shadow of a doubt, the XCR.
That "nutnfancy" video is about the one of the oldest XCR models, ancient history, when XCR was still in its infancy days as it portrays false image of the current production XCR's.
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Take a look at the LMT MWS upper. It fits the Stag. It does exactly what you just stated could not be done with that platform. The AR design characteristics are much more proven than the XCR, not saying the XCR is not as equally formidable design, but its just not got the experience that the AR does. They are both good designs, but you have to ask: why does RA not have any Mil/Leo contracts worth mentioning? How come most big name AR10 pattern manufactures have several big contracts to their names each?

Because the AR10 can be better or worse in every way pending user set up using aftermarket upgrades. The XCR you can change the grip and the stock, and you are limited to factory barrel offerings. **rolls eyes and whirls index finger**
 
onetwentyish said:
Take a look at the LMT MWS upper. It fits the Stag. It does exactly what you just stated could not be done with that platform. The AR design characteristics are much more proven than the XCR, not saying the XCR is not as equally formidable design, but its just not got the experience that the AR does. They are both good designs, but you have to ask: why does RA not have any Mil/Leo contracts worth mentioning? How come most big name AR10 pattern manufactures have several big contracts to their names each?

Because the AR10 can be better or worse in every way pending user set up using aftermarket upgrades. The XCR you can change the grip and the stock, and you are limited to factory barrel offerings. **rolls eyes and whirls index finger**
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Perhaps the lack of mil/leo contracts on the part of RA is attributable to their relatively small size in comparison to some of the "big name" AR10 manufacturers. Regardless, if I have to listen to 10 more seconds of a nutnfancy clip I will lose my mind.
 
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