Scent blocker/ozone?
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my friend got one of those ozone units for christmas last year but he didn't bring it deer hunting yet.
I'm a skeptic for a couple reasons.
I've worked with ozone in the residential and automotive "cleansing" application.
one was an apartment that had such bad damage from years of pet urine that once the floors and wallboard were removed it was sealed and ozoned for 72hrs before the renovation began.
the other was a corvette bought in an auction that a guy had died in and even though it was fully detailed , it had a lingering odor LOL sealed up with ozone for 72hrs and that fixed it.
ozone destroys organic particles and is actually kinda dangerous. Breathing it is very bad for you as it oxidizes living tissue and any other organic matter. Bad for your eyes, respiratory system ect.
So having one of those units on inside a ground blind..... sure, it will kill the organic particles that cause smell inside the blind and will for sure cut your scent outside the blind to a minimum. But at the same time the hunters in that blind risk damage to thier health. The concentrations of ozone required to eliminate scent from a human in a blind would certainly be toxic to breathe. In the open air you would need a massive unit and stand right in front of it, to eliminate your smell from the air.
not sure what the guidlines are that come with those products but I do remember all the safety stuff I had to learn before handling ozone in the work environment when i worked for my uncle doing restorations. I've heard stories of pot farmers using ozone generators to kill pathogens in the air and to kill smell from thier grow ops who have ended up with sever respiratory damage from breathing ozone in the air.
Personally i think those things are gimicks.
I'm a skeptic for a couple reasons.
I've worked with ozone in the residential and automotive "cleansing" application.
one was an apartment that had such bad damage from years of pet urine that once the floors and wallboard were removed it was sealed and ozoned for 72hrs before the renovation began.
the other was a corvette bought in an auction that a guy had died in and even though it was fully detailed , it had a lingering odor LOL sealed up with ozone for 72hrs and that fixed it.
ozone destroys organic particles and is actually kinda dangerous. Breathing it is very bad for you as it oxidizes living tissue and any other organic matter. Bad for your eyes, respiratory system ect.
So having one of those units on inside a ground blind..... sure, it will kill the organic particles that cause smell inside the blind and will for sure cut your scent outside the blind to a minimum. But at the same time the hunters in that blind risk damage to thier health. The concentrations of ozone required to eliminate scent from a human in a blind would certainly be toxic to breathe. In the open air you would need a massive unit and stand right in front of it, to eliminate your smell from the air.
not sure what the guidlines are that come with those products but I do remember all the safety stuff I had to learn before handling ozone in the work environment when i worked for my uncle doing restorations. I've heard stories of pot farmers using ozone generators to kill pathogens in the air and to kill smell from thier grow ops who have ended up with sever respiratory damage from breathing ozone in the air.
Personally i think those things are gimicks.
I don't believe you can cover your scent, or stop it from dissipating no matter what money you spend on trying to do so. Know where your scent is going and try to keep it from going where they can smell you. All the rest is hype.
I was sitting in a spot where the wind changed direction constantly, great spot but wind messed it up, I was hoping the ozone would help.
And that will happen. Just don't waste money trying to fix it.
i think the biggest scent contributor in the hunting environment is our breath. it is full of organic particles and I would bet animals react to that more than the smell on our boots or clothing.
So if one had a hunting face mask that took your exhaled breath into a tube via small silent fan unit and passed that thru a second tube with mini ozone generator and mixing tank before it was exhausted out of the unit into the air...... and the wearer never breathes the ozone....... that would work to cut down scent immensely i would think.
ozone is 03 ... or 3 oxygen atoms stuck together and it is volatile in it's natural state. Meaning it does not like to be 3 atoms stuck together.... it wants to be 2.... Or 02 being oxygen.
when ozone is in the air it is constantly looking for a partner for that extra atom. When the ozone nears an organic particle , it's magnetic charge draws the particle and neutralizes it by oxidizing the organic particle and returning it to a neutral state. This is how Ozone kills odor caused by organic matter be it our breath, our sweat or any other organic particle, bacteria, fungi ect.
the important thing to know , and while I'm comfortable sharing the safety info, i do not know how one would measure for thier own safety..... but in an enclosed space like a ground blind ect.... for humans or pets to be safe to breath the air..... Ozone concentrations should never exceed 0.1ppm or .001 oz(.03 grams) of ozone per hour.
That level of ozone, while safe to breath, is inadequate to kill odor in the room but in the ventilation system can assist in killing pathogens and bacteria entering the room.
Ozone is at the end of the day, hazardous to your health because the ozone will want to oxidize the cells in your lungs as you breath.
So if one had a hunting face mask that took your exhaled breath into a tube via small silent fan unit and passed that thru a second tube with mini ozone generator and mixing tank before it was exhausted out of the unit into the air...... and the wearer never breathes the ozone....... that would work to cut down scent immensely i would think.
ozone is 03 ... or 3 oxygen atoms stuck together and it is volatile in it's natural state. Meaning it does not like to be 3 atoms stuck together.... it wants to be 2.... Or 02 being oxygen.
when ozone is in the air it is constantly looking for a partner for that extra atom. When the ozone nears an organic particle , it's magnetic charge draws the particle and neutralizes it by oxidizing the organic particle and returning it to a neutral state. This is how Ozone kills odor caused by organic matter be it our breath, our sweat or any other organic particle, bacteria, fungi ect.
the important thing to know , and while I'm comfortable sharing the safety info, i do not know how one would measure for thier own safety..... but in an enclosed space like a ground blind ect.... for humans or pets to be safe to breath the air..... Ozone concentrations should never exceed 0.1ppm or .001 oz(.03 grams) of ozone per hour.
That level of ozone, while safe to breath, is inadequate to kill odor in the room but in the ventilation system can assist in killing pathogens and bacteria entering the room.
Ozone is at the end of the day, hazardous to your health because the ozone will want to oxidize the cells in your lungs as you breath.
I wash my hunting clothes in baking soda and water, let them air dry outside, and store them in a rubbermaid container with a couple of pine boughs. Watch the wind best you can and thats it. Ive had deer walk up within three yards a couple times.
I used to do the whole scent free shower/shampoo/deodorant thing on top of spray. I have now strayed away from all that stuff and only wash my clothes in special soap.
I am just as successful, I have simply gotten better at playing the wind. Sometimes when the wind is bad and you hunt a very small plot of land, it is worth taking the day off or fall to a back up spot.
I am just as successful, I have simply gotten better at playing the wind. Sometimes when the wind is bad and you hunt a very small plot of land, it is worth taking the day off or fall to a back up spot.
Great info right there. I wasn't planing on buying one but now I know I will never buy one. Thanks!!!
I think you will clearly read in the instructions that O3 machines are not supposed to be put in your blind. O3 absolutely works, its just science. How much of a difference it makes will depend on conditions, but it will help. How much it helps is up to debate. That being said, I'm not spending the money on one.
I do not believe that you can ever be scent free but I do believe you can minimize your scent, either buying time or distance before deer bust you. Whether its enough to make a difference will again be very condition dependant.
Play the wind as best you can, but that also is never 100% effective.
I spent a lot of time trying to figure out how one of those hunting ozone machines could possibly reduce human odor when used "in an open air environment" according to the instructions. I've worked with the stuff , very familiar with ozone and science tells me that the "only" way ozone would remove a hunters scent is if they were in a ground blind with a small intake and exhaust fan and the ozone is plumbed into the exhaust. Keeps the hunters lungs safe and would probably work very well depending on the size of the unit.
and that said..... my buddy who has one of these ozone units for hunting..... has managed to leave it at home 2 seasons in a row now and has had the best 2 deer hunting seasons of his life LOL go figure.
and that said..... my buddy who has one of these ozone units for hunting..... has managed to leave it at home 2 seasons in a row now and has had the best 2 deer hunting seasons of his life LOL go figure.
