Why 6.5 Creedmore?

There is a lot of weird butthurt over the Kreidmurs popularity. Over on AO there is a thread about it being a girls cartridge.

People get their feathers ruffled over the smallest things... If you don't like "X" just move along - you don't need to get why.
 
Ryan.M.Anderson said:
There is a lot of weird butthurt over the Kreidmurs popularity. Over on AO there is a thread about it being a girls cartridge.

People get their feathers ruffled over the smallest things... If you don't like "X" just move along - you don't need to get why.
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Apparently you are also suffering from ruffled feathers. :)
 
6.5 Creedmoor = 140gr bullet @ 2750 fps
260 Rem = 140gr bullet @ 2750 fps

Real easy to neck size a 308 case to 6.5 = 260 Rem

6 of one, half dozen of the other.
 
koldt said:
6.5 Creedmoor = 140gr bullet @ 2750 fps
260 Rem = 140gr bullet @ 2750 fps

Real easy to neck size a 308 case to 6.5 = 260 Rem

6 of one, half dozen of the other.
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That fairly well sums it up, and yet everyone will tell you the CM is the premier long distance cartridge. I don't dispute the CM is a good little cartridge but the marketing boys have hit it out of the park on this one.
 
Btw, my 300 Win Mag load is a 200gr ELD-X at 3000 fps. Hornady's factory loads are limited to 2850 because of SAAMI length spec of 3.34" COL. I'm loading to 3.46" (max mag length in my Savage) which gives me a lot more powder space. The 6.5 Creedmoor cannot be handloaded any longer than factory loads because the case is too short to do that. It's ideal for an AR10 length magazine (2.8" COL) but handicapped in a longer bolt action such as a Savage (2.95" COL).
 
jethunter said:
That fairly well sums it up, and yet everyone will tell you the CM is the premier long distance cartridge. I don't dispute the CM is a good little cartridge but the marketing boys have hit it out of the park on this one.
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I've been shooting a 260 since before there was commercial brass available. I sized and then outside turned the neck (tight chamber). Been doing this since KevinB was still in Cowtown, 20 years????

You hit the nail on the head, Marketing. That's what did it for the 6.5crdm.

I get fantastic results, mostly from the middle ranges, 400-700m, with the 140 AMax (now ELDM) @ 2770. I suspect,:rolleyes:that bullet out of either case going the same velocity, will get the same results.

The "partnership" with Ruger did wonders for the 6.5 Crdmr.
 
rifleman762 said:
Btw, my 300 Win Mag load is a 200gr ELD-X at 3000 fps. Hornady's factory loads are limited to 2850 because of SAAMI length spec of 3.34" COL. I'm loading to 3.46" (max mag length in my Savage) which gives me a lot more powder space. The 6.5 Creedmoor cannot be handloaded any longer than factory loads because the case is too short to do that. It's ideal for an AR10 length magazine (2.8" COL) but handicapped in a longer bolt action such as a Savage (2.95" COL).
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Btw guys are hand loading berger 154gr at 2850fps in the creed in bolt guns.
 
I really enjoy how online threads go these days.

Step 1) OP asks questions
Step 2) People give objective reasons why people do something
Step 3) Other people give dissenting objective reasons as to why to do something else
Step 4) OP only reads the answers he wants to see
Step 5) Opposing sides insult each other over a something that doesn't matter - optional but becoming more common unfortunately
Step 6) Repeat
 
Simply, the 6.5 Creedmoor offers the hunter/shooter, whether he shoots factory or handloads, factory rifle or custom, the most practical 6.5mm cartridge that fits in a true 2.8" short action rifle, IF he wants to shoot a heavy for caliber, sleek, 140+ class bullet.

The 260 Remington is a great cartridge, and when it came out in 1997, it was offered in factory ammo form as either a 125gr Nosler Partition, or 140gr Core Lokt. Rifles were either 20" Model Seven stainless or 24" Model 700 BDL SS DM. There was no PRS, there was no tactical bolt guns (Maybe a Rem 700 Police), and Remington labeled it as a deer cartridge

The Creed began life as a target cartridge, engineered to work best in 2.8" short actions with fast twist barrels and heavy for caliber bullets. Lots of rifles available. Lots of ammo. Lots of brass. Lots of people shooting it. It makes sense
 
jethunter said:
It's a good little cartridge, but I think marketing made it better in many people's minds.
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X2. It has become the darling of a couple of shooting disciplines and you know how that goes .... somebody “wins” with A, and a portion of the herd signs on to it. Nothing wrong with that but it needs to stand the test of time before it goes to get fitted for a crown.
 
jethunter said:
It's a good little cartridge, but I think marketing made it better in many people's minds.
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I believe it's recent attention has a lot to do with it's unofficial adoption by PRS guys.

IMO, 6.5 Creedmore is "better" than the 308 just like the 6.8SPC is "better" than 5.56. Sounds great on paper but unless the military ends up adopting it, it's just another "caliber-de-jour" that'll end up fading into obscurity.
 
koldt said:
It has exactly the same bullet performance, bullet weight, selection, style, velocity, same magazine size, bolt face, etc. EVERYTHING. How is one "better" than the other?
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The creedmoor performs better at 2.8" COAL, as it is designed to, in AR10-pattern 2.8" magazine-fed guns.

The 260 gives up comparatively more case capacity when high BC bullets are seated at this COAL, enough that the creedmoor has a higher case capacity.

At lengths over SAAMI, the 260 is better.
 
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