Lets see your HiPowers!

Horilka is mostly correct. Fabrik Natiional (FN) asked JMB to adopt & improve his 1911 design for a new european 9mm pistol. JMB began the design and made serious progress at FN for the new design. Unfortunately he died before finishing the design and FN assigned DS to finish the design.

DS did not start the design. However, his cantilever trigger design (after JMB's death) for the new BHP trigger was weak, a repudiation of the vastly superior 1911 single action design, and a unique trigger design that nobody has ever copied.

The BHP SAO (single action only) design pales in comparison to JMB's 1910 design in every aspect, save the double-stack 13 round magszine and 9mm caliber.
 
I respectfully disagree. JMB never worked on HP. And he was never tasked with adaptation of his 1911 design for European market. Saive was tasked to come up with something for French trials, and he designed hi-cap magazine and adapted 1903 design to meet French preliminary requirements and fit this 15-round magazine. He sent two samples to JMB and JMB worked on them. That was last JMB involvement in the series of projects that resulted in "High Power". Read on. French kept changing requirement and at this point not just Saive but also Val (JMB son who was working in Belgium) contributed to French trials project and result was so called Model of 1922 (that was in 9mm Luger, don't confuse it with Serbian adaptation of M1910 in 9mm BrS which later was called M1922, totally different pistols). So at this point project drifted very far from what JMB worked on with two samples of adapted 1903. I can't find online picture of French trial Model 1922 but it's in the book. Now after 1922 there were many changes as French kept changing requirements. Eventually FN branched the project and Saive finalized project called "Grand Rendement". FN was reluctantly sending to French new samples meeting their everchanging requirements, but newly branched Grand Rendement was marketed and ready to be produced in 1928-1929. Belgium military got interested in 1931 and ordered 1000 or GRs for field trials. They submitted their feedback and their requirements and Saive came out with Grand Puisannce which is "High Power" in English. As you can see there's no JMB involvement, there's no "working around patents" etc. I would not recommend trust Wikipedia or inetrenet articles, but rather look into books specialized on subject.

I also don't agree HP design was not successful. In Europe apart of some exception 1911 design was not successful. And these days it's popular in North America only, just because it's iconic for US collectors and shooters. That is if we measure with sales figures. As Europe after WW2 has seen decay of private firearms ownership we can't really say that HP design was failure (add to this that is Europe traditional personal defense firearm was small and with smaller calibers and even officers preferred small 7.65 handguns). If we look to military and police contracts then HP was widely adopted across the world. Really 1911 and HP can't be compared as they were results of different requirements and served on different markets. The legacy of JMB works is undisputed, true, however legacy of M1911 is limited to North America and those who follow US gun history. In Europe and other parts of the world M1911 is not iconic at all. With many countries and nations on single continents there's greater variety in taste and opinions.
 
Posted many times over the years (here)...1968 "T" series inherited from my father.
It has seen less than a box of ammo since new. One of my Never Sells.....
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Not too sure if that picture link will work, apologies if it doesnt. i recently acquired a 1976 commercial hi power with target sites for 400 dollars. it looks basically brand im wondering what the value on this is.. the catch is the gun wont cycle rounds reliably and i have no idea what the problem is. does anyone know where replacement parts can be sourced in canada?


edit/ can someone explain to me how to post pictures here haha. i promise this hi power deserves to be seen. thanks!
 
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Not too sure if that picture link will work, apologies if it doesnt. i recently acquired a 1976 commercial hi power with target sites for 400 dollars. it looks basically brand im wondering what the value on this is.. the catch is the gun wont cycle rounds reliably and i have no idea what the problem is. does anyone know where replacement parts can be sourced in canada?


edit/ can someone explain to me how to post pictures here haha. i promise this hi power deserves to be seen. thanks![/QUOTE]

Brownells is a good source of HP parts.
 
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Not too sure if that picture link will work, apologies if it doesnt. i recently acquired a 1976 commercial hi power with target sites for 400 dollars. it looks basically brand im wondering what the value on this is.. the catch is the gun wont cycle rounds reliably and i have no idea what the problem is. does anyone know where replacement parts can be sourced in canada?


edit/ can someone explain to me how to post pictures here haha. i promise this hi power deserves to be seen. thanks![/QUOTE]

Post pictures on a hosting site like Imgur and copy the link to insert image.
 
Through this post and with thanks to 2tall2 I figured out how to post pictures on this site again. Thank you.
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Anyone got there hands on the new DA35 copy?
Wondering if I should grab one of those or hold out for a new ish authentic one.
More interested in shooting then collecting at this point.
 
Hi there. I'm not sure but I believe you had a Browning Hi Power P35 for sale that originally came from a small town bank. Would it still be for sale? Thanks in advance and if I have the wrong person I apologize.
 
So these are going for about $800 right now- in various conditions from fair to good. Why would someone want to buy one when you can get a brand new 9mm for the same price, or a really nice shooting 9mm for another $100-200? Sure, I've shot them and there is nothing wrong with them but they are also old and used.

Other than historically, what's the real appeal? "Because I like them" is valid enough reason, of course.
 
"Other than historically, what's the real appeal? "Because I like them" is valid enough reason, of course."

For me, that is enough. I have several "mil-surps" that I like to shoot. Steel Challenge with a Walther P38 is great fun. I don't have enough magazines for the FN P35 to do that course of fire, unfortunately.
 
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