Greetings all. I have come into possession of a lovely old Crosman 38T airgun with the leather holster. With age and lack of use, the seals are gone, or at least some of them. I tried to log onto the Canadian Airgun Forum, but that was an exercise in frustration! I know there's a chap here in Ontario who does repairs and/or refurbishing of these older airguns and I've read good things about him. Could some kind soul direct me? The revolver itself is actually in lovely condition and it would be a shame not to have it put back to rights. Thanks in advance.
Crosman 38T repairs!
- Thread starter LawrenceN
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Thank you Steve! I'll check him out as well. I'd still like to find out about this guy in Ontario, if he's still around.
ramhunter
CGN Regular
Fox Sporting Goods Perth Ontario
I think thats the guy you are after I have bought parts from him for airguns You can get a whole seal kit for about $40
He has a service that answers his phone so be patient 513 267 3906 or Scopesandammo.com
I think thats the guy you are after I have bought parts from him for airguns You can get a whole seal kit for about $40
He has a service that answers his phone so be patient 513 267 3906 or Scopesandammo.com
NorthCoastBigBore
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- Northwest BC (Rural) 103-I-##
R&R also has an ebay store I just (last month) bought a 38 seal kit from him through that, the shipping was way cheaper than Scopesandammo (which I think is also Fox). Super quick shipping. He (R&R) has good reviews all over the CAF too.
Thank you all guys. I contacted Scopesandammo and never got the courtesy of a reply. I also contacted Prophet River in regards to another matter, and I gotta tell you guys, customer service in this country sure has gone downhill. I used to work in the gun shop at the now defunct LeBaron's, and if I had an employee as lackadaisical in response time as these guys, they'd have been out the door. I never received a yes, no, go F yourself or any kind of a response. I just sent an email to randrgunrepair, so I hope these guys are more professional and courteous.
blackacres
Regular
- Location
- Mount Hope, Ontario
To the original poster, LawrenceN,
If you have some basic knowledge of how the older/vintage Crosman CO2 air pistols and rifles operate, and basic hands on mechanical skills, the 38T/38C pistols are relatively easy to repair.
As mentioned above, order yourself a complete seal kit (online) from Fox Goods, located in Perth and you will receive the seal kit probably late next week. I think the person processing orders received via email, and the shipping of parts, is a "one man show". Don't even bother to call him, I got the impression his day is fully occupied processing orders and he has next to know time to listen to voice messages, and chatting on the phone. Ordering online works well.
Here is a link to the seal kit you require:
http://scopesandammo.com/storefront/product_info.php/crosman-38-seal-kit-p-583
Earlier this year I purchased two 38T seal kits, and in two evening your 38T will be functioning like new. I rebuilt one pistol at time, so after four evenings I was done.
I have repaired most of my vintage Crosman pistols and rifle in the past. The majority of the older Crosman airguns carried a lot of the same design and function. They were well designed and well constructed. After a number of years the O-rings dry out and get hard, which causes leaks.
After you order the seal kits, go to the Crosman Canada website, they have operator manuals, however, they also have a basic service manual, which provide part numbers plus detailed component and assembly procedures within the drawings. They retain this information for all the models they produced going back in the 1930's or so.
I would suggest downloading the 38T service manual, which you can download for free.
Here is a link to a support section on Crosman's US website, it list information for the older Crosman pistols going back to the 100 pistol and on. Scroll down and download the 38T service manual.
https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/categories/200223634-Owner-s-Manuals-and-Parts-Diagrams
Using the service manual information striping the pistol requires basic tools, several sizes of slotted screwdrivers, a 1/4" and 7/16" wrenches.
Since all of the O-rings and seals will be replaced, before you strip the pistol, spray all of the screws fasteners, the two small nuts at the end of the copper tube fittings, one at the piercing assembly, the other end enters the rear of the valve assembly. I use WD40 since it cleans dried grease and gunk, and it will assist you when you take the pistol apart.
Once the parts are ready install the seals, I use a quick shot of brake cleaner to ensure there is no petroleum oils on the areas where the O-rings are seated.
As I am about to fit each seal, I use a smear of silicone lubricant liquid on the O-rings & seals, plus the area where the seals will seat.
If you elect to follow the above suggestion, and are about to begin resealing your 38T, you are welcome to send me a PM, since I am in Mount Hope (Hamilton) and you appear to be in the GTA, I can chat with you over the phone the give you some tips.
Cheers, and a Merry Christmas.
If you have some basic knowledge of how the older/vintage Crosman CO2 air pistols and rifles operate, and basic hands on mechanical skills, the 38T/38C pistols are relatively easy to repair.
As mentioned above, order yourself a complete seal kit (online) from Fox Goods, located in Perth and you will receive the seal kit probably late next week. I think the person processing orders received via email, and the shipping of parts, is a "one man show". Don't even bother to call him, I got the impression his day is fully occupied processing orders and he has next to know time to listen to voice messages, and chatting on the phone. Ordering online works well.
Here is a link to the seal kit you require:
http://scopesandammo.com/storefront/product_info.php/crosman-38-seal-kit-p-583
Earlier this year I purchased two 38T seal kits, and in two evening your 38T will be functioning like new. I rebuilt one pistol at time, so after four evenings I was done.
I have repaired most of my vintage Crosman pistols and rifle in the past. The majority of the older Crosman airguns carried a lot of the same design and function. They were well designed and well constructed. After a number of years the O-rings dry out and get hard, which causes leaks.
After you order the seal kits, go to the Crosman Canada website, they have operator manuals, however, they also have a basic service manual, which provide part numbers plus detailed component and assembly procedures within the drawings. They retain this information for all the models they produced going back in the 1930's or so.
I would suggest downloading the 38T service manual, which you can download for free.
Here is a link to a support section on Crosman's US website, it list information for the older Crosman pistols going back to the 100 pistol and on. Scroll down and download the 38T service manual.
https://support.crosman.com/hc/en-us/categories/200223634-Owner-s-Manuals-and-Parts-Diagrams
Using the service manual information striping the pistol requires basic tools, several sizes of slotted screwdrivers, a 1/4" and 7/16" wrenches.
Since all of the O-rings and seals will be replaced, before you strip the pistol, spray all of the screws fasteners, the two small nuts at the end of the copper tube fittings, one at the piercing assembly, the other end enters the rear of the valve assembly. I use WD40 since it cleans dried grease and gunk, and it will assist you when you take the pistol apart.
Once the parts are ready install the seals, I use a quick shot of brake cleaner to ensure there is no petroleum oils on the areas where the O-rings are seated.
As I am about to fit each seal, I use a smear of silicone lubricant liquid on the O-rings & seals, plus the area where the seals will seat.
If you elect to follow the above suggestion, and are about to begin resealing your 38T, you are welcome to send me a PM, since I am in Mount Hope (Hamilton) and you appear to be in the GTA, I can chat with you over the phone the give you some tips.
Cheers, and a Merry Christmas.
Blackacres, thank you ever so much. Most informative and enlightening! After due consideration, I decided to contact R&R Airgun repair and send it off to them to be put back to rights. My biggest concern was the fact that I could not get the CO2 cartridge to seat. I don't know if the seal had hardened to the point that the neck of the cartridge would not nest into the orifice that housed the piercer, but out of frustration, I forced the cartridge into the piercer. It was so tight that the cartridge actually started to pop to one one side rather than go in straight. R&R will let me know what I'm looking at after they've done their assessment and I'll proceed from there. Given that the pistol is in such lovely shape, I think I'll get repaired. It would be a shame for such a nice example of it's type to go unused.
