I only shoot a single action 44 Blackhawk, and even with 240gr@1400 the required accuracy would be ok, but the time... I’ve heard that the X-frame S&W revolvers are quite controllable with their brake/comp setup, but I haven’t found anyone who wants to trade so I can find out for myself.
Tenifer, Glock, and “Toughness” - One season’s guiding & bushpiloting on a G40
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I have no doubt the hazards in your line of work are just misunderstood individuals too!
Haha here I was resisting recommending the SS Desert Eagle but now... sure it might be a heavy, unwieldy poser gun. But think how Hollywood you would look! You know you want to!!
All joking aside, Be careful! I wouldn’t want to rely on a pistol at close range against one of those! The Glock is decent Now just get some g96! Honestly I swear this is a ploy to sucker us into OCD hell!
About five years ago, maybe more, one of the guides living here in Terrace qualified with his 500. Not with me, but he did offer me the experience of shooting the 500. I can tell you Angus he was shooting the gun about as fast as I can shoot a full load .357 into a bear target at 25 yards. I am not at all sure he was putting them within a six inch circle but he was fast with a steady cadence. I don't doubt he was capable. You may know him. His name is long gone from my memory. The hurt from the recoil has not left me. I wish I could tell you he was a huge guy but my memory of him was he was slight of build. You remember these things after a 500 experience.
Take Care
Bob
I qualified with a Glock 10 mm and a Ruger SRH .454 Casull with a 4.5" barrel. Same requirement for both. Thank goodness for IPSC and the excellent training those fellows provide. Test was not difficult after a weekend of Black Badge Training. I found the phone interview the toughest part. The CFO....1.5 hrs of questions going over your application etc. Requirement of documentation such as supplying hazard assessments, firearms policies, working alone, check in systems etc. etc. I must admit though the CFO seemed like a legit, really good guy, very helpful and knowledgeable, insuring you have all the bases covered and were competent, safe and following the rule of law. No complaints in CFO, actually was very impressed with them.
All though there very busy and hard to get a conversation in due to the process of calling into the CFC and waiting for a call back. For those of us requesting ATC's we tend to not be in cell coverage alot...process and qualification requirements though are ridiculous!
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Ardent
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Thanks for answering that question.... I was wondering about the PMC and if that was your grizzly load....
Seems strange to have such demanding time and target constraints and then allow people to certify with a load they won't be using?
Nothing makes much sense though once the government get's involved with firearms.
Yea I often carry that load too for simplicity and it’s permitted, they write right on the test sheet what you fired, that’s almost certainly the minimum load they’re approving. I really doubt they care if you add power, that’s a field discretion issue.
It’s hard, most folks who figure they’ll ace it will be very surprised. Do the same shoot on your own time to evaluate, I shoot the Glock instinctively, well. With a 629 I’d need to be at the top of my game and I’d be nervous.
My point was that it's interesting that they have such stringent rules around time and accuracy but allow light loads to be used for qualification, then allow you to up the loads in the field..... loads with which you may or may not have passed the initial test with? Don't get me wrong.... I think a heavier load then the PMC is probably a good idea for you but the testing process and holster style requirements seem illogical.
Do C.O.'s undergo the same shooting test requirements?
I would guess that keeping calm in the moment, choosing where to put the bullet and then executing a good first round hit, with possibly a second good shot would be about the best most could hope for. Doing a quick draw and blasting off 5 rounds in 6 seconds seems a bit desperate other then a surprise attack at close quarters.
Have you ever shot a big bear with a handgun?
Quite the process by the sounds of it and only for people working in the wild..... people recreating in the same environment don't get access to handy self defense tools in Canada. In Alaska people just figure it out on their own with limited government interference...... no one but them selves to blame or depend on. Simple, effective and zero cost to taxpayers.
it is.
Very interesting. WD-40Special and Hornady One shot in the top 3 for corrosion resistance. I guess it depends what you are fighting; lack of slipperiness or corrosion.
Ardent
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Right now there is no requirement to carry a specified ammo afield, and hope there never is as it would get frustrating if that specific load is in short supply as many come in and out of availability, you get approved for the gun thankfully. The test wants to see you using factory ammo of appropriate bullet weight, and the PMC 200gr 10mm with all its bark and flash meets the desired testing concept. Never had to stop a bear with a handgun and hope I never do. No idea on BC COs qualifications I imagine one of the fellas is probably on here maybe they’ll be able to chime in. ALL grizzly attacks will be surprise attacks at close quarters, you seldom would get warning.
Yea I’m just not arguing with the thread as “WD40 is crap” isrepeated everywhere with few having tested it. It’s actually one of the best as it doesn’t just protect against corrosion, it is purposely designed to displace water (Water Displacer #40 hence the name WD40), and readily available. In most salt spray tests it’s near the top, and has worked better than the top, Eezox, for me in actual application. I have Eezox too, and others, WD40 actually helps get the salt water OUT.
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the hornady product does both. Im a happy user. just hard to find.
That test in the link is interesting.
The WD-40 that did ok is a special anti rust blend and not the typical WD-40.
Buddy did a water displacement test and only a few out of dozens of lubricants actually displaced water. WD-40 was not one of them.
The WD-40 that did ok is a special anti rust blend and not the typical WD-40.
Buddy did a water displacement test and only a few out of dozens of lubricants actually displaced water. WD-40 was not one of them.
One thing for sure that Gen 4 slide is not Tenifer coated. Tenifer doesn't rust. I read that on the internet. I also read where Glock quit using Tenifer with the Gen 3's. The Gen 5 iteration is a better design from what I have read. Better slide construction and a better trigger group. Same grip angle that keeps me shooting the PPQ, SIG and M&P.
Angus just for fun I would send some pics to Glock and ask what they think. Hell they might send you a replacement gun.
Take Care
Bob
Angus just for fun I would send some pics to Glock and ask what they think. Hell they might send you a replacement gun.
Take Care
Bob
