I don't think any farmer losing money because of birds would charge hunters to hunt unless his fees covered his losses.
Outfitters would be lining up to have access to fields like that.
Hunting Permission: Let’s talk Price
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I don't think any farmer losing money because of birds would charge hunters to hunt unless his fees covered his losses.
Outfitters would be lining up to have access to fields like that.
Never said I wanted to charge.
Simply pointing out that the change in private property laws could lead to pay for access being legalized.
- Location
- West Quebec
Private property rights is one of the most important issues provincially and Federally
I’m only on here discussing issues that are relevant to me. If you don’t want to pay for a hunting lease and can secure hunting on private lands or public lands then you have that right. But to suggest that everyone who owns lands that are productive for wildlife should never have the option to charge a fee and that someone willing to pay to hunt is legally unable to do so doesn’t sit well with me.
If you own a house do you think anyone that needs a place to live because they don’t want to spend any money to buy a house can stay in your house for free? Probably not because as a property owner you have a say in who you allow in and on your property and what fee or rent you can charge them, correct? Why would land be any different? If a guy bought it to specifically have to produce wildlife why can he not be able to charge a fee but his neighbor can clear cut the forest and sell the trees? And then plow the whole thing under, drain the swamps and cultivate wheat which can be sold on a world market?
I’m only looking for a system that compensates landowners by allowing hunters access to good hunting land while at the same time keeping the land natural, the way it is and productive for wildlife. I don’t want hunting to become more expensive believe me I’m paying the most out of almost everyone on here. Not only did I already spend six figures on land I also spend $700 per year on taxes and make about enough on hay to cover those taxes.
You would be sickened by how expensive it is for me to hunt if you broke it down. If anything I want to help you save money by giving you an option to purchase a quality hunt at a fraction of what it cost you to buy enough acres and pay the taxes just to shoot a deer and I don’t want to be criminalized for doing so. Is there something unreasonable about my position? I’m not forcing any one to pay for anything they don’t want to but to suggest that someone cannot have the option to have a mutual transaction in the marketplace could be considered forcing his view on others, no?
Furthermore, by providing a place for animals to live and giving them the option of living there or living in the millions of acres of plowed fields by their own free choice they have decided to reside on my property. It’s not like I’m being paid to grow animals even though they live and reproduce there. Maybe I should be...because it sounds like quite a few people take private land owners who produce public wildlife at their own expense for granted. You feel me brother?
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If the somewhat unique law of Saskatchewan land being assumed to be huntable unless posted otherwise can be changed, why can't the equally oddball law that hunting access can't be charged for also be changed?
Y'all like to call me a troll but you were just trolled by a master
Umchorn is notorious for his desire to "own" all the wildlife on some property (real or imagined) he claims to own, he advocates high fence hunting and any way he can charge hunters for natural resources
This post is just throwing the cat among the pigeons and an attempt to sow dissension
Umchorn is notorious for his desire to "own" all the wildlife on some property (real or imagined) he claims to own, he advocates high fence hunting and any way he can charge hunters for natural resources
This post is just throwing the cat among the pigeons and an attempt to sow dissension
So are you against government charging fees for hunting and fishing?
So should landowners have the right to charge a fee for use of their land?
A fair number of my Supers hail from Arkansas & Texas on my current project. $12 an acre seems to be around the current rate for a hunting lease. Until someone shoots one that makes the books, then some doctor, lawyer or dentist will offer stupid money and you’ll get the boot if you can’t match. Only seen that happen once so far but the cash per acre offered was crazy compared to the original lease holder....
Are you Umchorns multiple account?
BrotherRockeye
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- Rural Saskatchewan
You need to buy a map. The Montrose, Swanson and Macdonald Douglas pastures are all within an hour SOUTH of Saskatoon. That's a far cry from the forest zones.
the spank
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Planet Earth Wearing My Tinfoil Hat
I have only had one landowner in SK try to charge for access. I think he saw the US plates on my buddies truck and figured he’d cash in. I politely declined and hunted around the area on neighnouring farms we secured permission on. When my buddy and his friends returned to the US I reported the guy who tried to charge for access to SERM. Never heard anything further but I’m hoping he at least got a visit.
safehunter
Regular
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- South Western Onterrible
It always dismays me to see hunters divided.
The only problem I have with a fair market system is that I'll get priced out of the game, especially if you add the American factor.
If I can't afford to hunt then I'd probably retire from the sport and there would be one less advocate on the gunnutz behalf. I feel there are many like myself. Apparently up to 26k jobs lost in Oshawa this morning. I bet a lot of those people would like to put some meat on the table, but not if they have to gamble with next months food bill to do it.
But hey, our numbers our dwindling anyway, so why not cash out and hasten the end. It's more profitable to sell our resources to the highest bidding elite tourist than having hunting be part of our national identity and culture.
The only problem I have with a fair market system is that I'll get priced out of the game, especially if you add the American factor.
If I can't afford to hunt then I'd probably retire from the sport and there would be one less advocate on the gunnutz behalf. I feel there are many like myself. Apparently up to 26k jobs lost in Oshawa this morning. I bet a lot of those people would like to put some meat on the table, but not if they have to gamble with next months food bill to do it.
But hey, our numbers our dwindling anyway, so why not cash out and hasten the end. It's more profitable to sell our resources to the highest bidding elite tourist than having hunting be part of our national identity and culture.
Government already charges you to hunt.
Nope.
