Anyone can recognize this Walther rimfire rifle in Tanner or Hammerli-Tanner stock

[Arwho]

Looks like a KKM Match rifle to me, they differed by looks a wee bit depending on year of manufacture

There is a difference between the KKM and the UIT but I am sworn to secrecy and can't disclose what that is

Mine is not one of these. But it is heavy, the weight should be in the range of the KKM-Match.

 

[Got Juice?]

The more I look at your rifle, the more it looks to be a modified Match International. Still a damn fine rifle, the modifications are minor and enhance the rifle. If you paid under 1K for it you stole it. If you offered it for sale for 1K I would have no trouble plunking down the cash for it either.

 

[Arwho]

The more I look at your rifle, the more it looks to be a modified Match International. Still a damn fine rifle, the modifications are minor and enhance the rifle. If you paid under 1K for it you stole it. If you offered it for sale for 1K I would have no trouble plunking down the cash for it either.

Thanks！
Wanna keep it for a while，if I wanna let it go，I will ask you first before I put it on EE.

 

[Arwho]

Topped it with a Bushnell 6.5-30X50，hurried
to the range and shot a 5X5 group at 50 meters，I think the 2
fliers my fault，should bring with me my rest instead of using range sand bags.

 

[Got Juice?]

Nice target. Might want to check your action torques. 25-28 inlbs seems to be a sweet spot.

Tough to maintain discipline on shot strings. That one flyer, I can feel it when I let the shot got (FRIG!) and sure enough... the proof is on the paper.

 

[Arwho]

Nice target. Might want to check your action torques. 25-28 inlbs seems to be a sweet spot.

Tough to maintain discipline on shot strings. That one flyer, I can feel it when I let the shot got (FRIG!) and sure enough... the proof is on the paper.

Thanks for the advice, will try again playing with action torques and not in a hurry. I just found that I needed 2 more turns to tighten the ring bolt to the dove tail

 

[Arwho]

Almost there

 

[Got Juice?]

Almost there

Sweet! Changed hold or torque values?

 

[Arwho]

Sweet! Changed hold or torque values?

Yes，was trying to find a comfortable grig and hold，it looked all good until the last flyer round in the middle. Still don't have time to play with action torques，the vibration from neighbouring center fires ruined several groups.

 

[Got Juice?]

Yes，was trying to find a comfortable grig and hold，it looked all good until the last flyer round in the middle. Still don't have time to play with action torques，the vibration from neighbouring center fires ruined several groups.

I feel your pain. But it's part of shooting. Centerfire concussion from braked guns can be distracting when trying for bug hole groups. I see some vertical stringing on this target. Did you change up ammunition?

If not, you may want to look into a torque wrench

 

[Got Juice?]

I watched a fellow the other day shooting groups. Interesting. Front and rear bag, what i would call a loose hold, and then pinched the trigger. thumb on the rear of the trigger guard and index finger on the trigger. Seemed to work well for his setup.

 

[Arwho]

My 22lr ammos are running low，so I just grabbed sevreral brands which had more than 25 rounds，but sadly to find that the barrel took 3-4 rounds to stable point of impact after switching different ammos.
The right lower group of the posted target was affected by the vibration of the center fire also（the shooting benches were all linked together），but was lucky to be the first shot of the group and I tried to hold over to save the group. But not lucky with the last group in the center.

 

[Arwho]

I watched a fellow the other day shooting groups. Interesting. Front and rear bag, what i would call a loose hold, and then pinched the trigger. thumb on the rear of the trigger guard and index finger on the trigger. Seemed to work well for his setup.

Yeah，I saw that type of shooting also，maybe it is free recoil shooting technic？The technic should help grouping a lot cause it eliminate most of human factors，most of them are used in so-calle rail-gun

 

[Got Juice?]

My 22lr ammos are running low，so I just grabbed sevreral brands which had more than 25 rounds，but sadly to find that the barrel took 3-4 rounds to stable point of impact after switching different ammos.
The right lower group of the posted target was affected by the vibration of the center fire also（the shooting benches were all linked together），but was lucky to be the first shot of the group and I tried to hold over to save the group. But not lucky with the last group in the center.

good to see the barrel stabilized after changing ammunition. Sometimes it will take either cleaning and a refouling, or a wet/dry patch and then foulers to bring accuracy back.

Yeah，I saw that type of shooting also，maybe it is free recoil shooting technic？The technic should help grouping a lot cause it eliminate most of human factors，most of them are used in so-calle rail-gun

I have yet to try this technique, it does look promising.

 

[grauhanen]

Yeah，I saw that type of shooting also，maybe it is free recoil shooting technic？The technic should help grouping a lot cause it eliminate most of human factors，most of them are used in so-calle rail-gun

It's called "free recoil" and it's when the shooter doesn't touch the rifle at all -- except to operate the trigger. The pinch is used when the trigger pull isn't quite low enough that the rifle will not move when "pulling" the trigger to take the shot. A really light trigger would only need a "touch" to set it off. For best free recoil results a stock with a butt stock bottom that is parallel to the bore is desirable. Ideally all aiming of the rifle is done by moving the mechanical rest and possibly the rear rest.

 

[Arwho]

It's called "free recoil" and it's when the shooter doesn't touch the rifle at all -- except to operate the trigger. The pinch is used when the trigger pull isn't quite low enough that the rifle will not move when "pulling" the trigger to take the shot. A really light trigger would only need a "touch" to set it off. For best free recoil results a stock with a butt stock bottom that is parallel to the bore is desirable. Ideally all aiming of the rifle is done by moving the mechanical rest and possibly the rear rest.

Thats interesting，thanks for schooling！Will try it to see the results.

 

[Arwho]

It's called "free recoil" and it's when the shooter doesn't touch the rifle at all -- except to operate the trigger. The pinch is used when the trigger pull isn't quite low enough that the rifle will not move when "pulling" the trigger to take the shot. A really light trigger would only need a "touch" to set it off. For best free recoil results a stock with a butt stock bottom that is parallel to the bore is desirable. Ideally all aiming of the rifle is done by moving the mechanical rest and possibly the rear rest.

They are two beauties! I just notice that they don't have butt plates, so you just shoot them with free recoil technique? How's the results compared to traditional technique?

 

[grauhanen]

No butt plates are needed because the rifles are not meant to touch the shoulder. The top rifle is off the net, the second is one that I owned. I had good results with the Anschutz (1907 barreled action with a BR-50-U7 stock) but found I preferred a rifle I could hold.

 

[Arwho]

@Got Juice? : I torqued the action screw to 28 lb/in as you suggested, thanks!

@grauhanen : Thanks for schooling me about the free recoil shooting technique. I tried to shoot it free recoil, but it is PITA to aim. So I welded my cheek slightly on the stock and my shoulder touched the butt slightly also to get a consistent sight picture.

Now it seems to shoot better(@50 meter):
Federal Value Pack

Eley Match

 

[Got Juice?]

@Got Juice? : I torqued the action screw to 28 lb/in as you suggested, thanks!

@grauhanen : Thanks for schooling me about the free recoil shooting technique. I tried to shoot it free recoil, but it is PITA to aim. So I welded my cheek slightly on the stock and my shoulder touched the butt slightly also to get a consistent sight picture.

Now it seems to shoot better(@50 meter):
Federal Value Pack

Eley Match

Torque action screws??? I suggested that? Darn, can't give away all the good stuff

Some Like more or less Torque. I have one that likes 28Front and 25 rear. The other one likes 30 but in my mind that is close to limit of the fastener. Those are some excellent groups to be proud of for sure.

I remember my first 10/22, so much fun, then I progressed to CZ452's and as my shooting skills advanced, I got bitten by the accuracy bug of the single shot. And it has been all downhill from there.

My gun cabinet now has 5 single shot rifles, 1 Semi Auto, and 1 mag fed.

Depending on how bad the bug bites you, front rests, barrel tuners, better glass, it becomes endless.

While better equipment does not always mean better performance, it tends to make the most of your own skillset.

Congrats on that rifle, but a warning. the Walther trigger is difficult to beat even compared to current Anschutz triggers. It becomes the gold standard.