S&W model 19 classic
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hatman1793
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The new MIM parts, 4.2" barrel tube with ridiculous shroud & untunable frame-mounted firing pin is just the carbon steel copy of the previously released model 66. Ugh.
If one of the gun owner organizations that are supposed to protect lawful gun owners had sued the government over the totally unconstitutional imposition of "grandfathering" some gun owners & not other gun owners, we could all own the real S&W 19's, 66's, 629's, etc.
If one of the gun owner organizations that are supposed to protect lawful gun owners had sued the government over the totally unconstitutional imposition of "grandfathering" some gun owners & not other gun owners, we could all own the real S&W 19's, 66's, 629's, etc.
Ya I did see the Hickok show, however I love my 66 and have absolutely “0”issues with it but always thought it should be Black with the wood handle..
I also agree the original would be nicer however we have to move on as we will never get them.
Thanks for the replies and am heading over there now
I also agree the original would be nicer however we have to move on as we will never get them.
Thanks for the replies and am heading over there now
Fair enough.....getting a new gun is always fun. Hope you enjoy it.
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Over the years, I've had a number of Smiths in 357 Mag, both, the K frame size 19's and 66's and the N frame size 28 and 27's. With a sizeable diet of heavy loads, there've been more than a few times I've had 
'issues' with the K frame 19's and 66's.
'issues' with the K frame 19's and 66's.Over the years, I've had a number of Smiths in 357 Mag, both, the K frame size 19's and 66's and the N frame size 28 and 27's. With a sizeable diet of heavy loads, there've been more than a few times I've had
Yep, back in the day they used to say "practise .38spl , carry .357" about the K frames. If your thing is to shoot a steady diet of hot .357 at the range a vintage K frame is probably not the gun for you.
From what I understand the new "Classic" model 19's have different construction that renders them stronger than the original .357 K frames. That is certainly what S&W claims and is consistent with the claims made by Jerry Milculek in the video above.
I might be too but i think I'd have to see one in the flesh first. I'm still not convinced that today's S&W's can match the level of fit and finish of vintage Smiths when it comes to assembly, bluing, quality of the stocks etc etc
The fit of the two piece barrels are better than the old style barrel on newer guns. Mostly because the two piece requires little skill to install properly. Also the two piece barrels have proper crowns unlike the newer one piece barrels with lopsided crowns.
The pre 1990s guns are the best hands down. But since S&W has few skilled gunsmith that give a F anymore, I would go with the two piece any day.
Jerry has a longtime business relationship with S&W. That certainly doesn't negate any of the points he makes in that video but it's worth keeping in mind.
I'd agree. All of my Colt and S&W revolvers range in production dates from 1914 to about 1982. The production methods of yesterday required highly skilled craftsmen. Even if those people were still widely available, labour costs being what they are today the resulting guns could run in the thousands (think Korth or Manurhin)
Nothing wrong at all in using modern design and production techniques to reduce costs.
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The different style of yoke provides room to eliminate the flat spot on the bottom of the barrel at the forcing cone. On the old K Frames, this was the weak point. Erosion from lots of magnum loads could weaken it to the point where the barrel would split, often cracking the frame as well. The ball detent is also a neat feature that sits in the v-notch, such that it pushes the cylinder into a more tight lockup.
What I would consider the real "golden age" for S&W revolvers is the period between when the postwar models came out and the company was sold to Bangor Punta in 1965.
