CGN's shooting the Ross

I have the Ross bug as well. It started when I borrowed one from a friend which had little rifling...pitting in the bore etc. and it shot better than any of my LE's. I now have a Factory sporter "M" and a factory sporter "R "......also have three Mk3's and two Mk.2's which have been cut. Full wood military rifles are difficult to find and almost non existent with good shiny bores. I think my "M" has one of the .299" bores....Dave
 
Ross Rifles

I have an full wood M10 with a good bore but the stock appears to be sanded a bit. The M10's I have observed have a rivit in the bolt body to prevent them from being field stripped. I like the M10 but it is long and heavy, not something I could carry through the woods. I have a few extra parts for them in my shop but can't quite remember where I saw them last.

I would have purchased more of them from the same collection if the stunned Bas**ard who was selling them was doing his job. I was interested in more of them and had the money but the guy wouldn't sell something that you were interested in. As it turned out he had mental problems and the family didn't realize it until later. He would say he was keeping it for his son, and after you left he would sell it to someone else for a fraction of the price. I missed out on buying about 25 nice military guns. The family only got a small portion of the proceeds as he was stealing the money as well. I talked to a member of the family and mentioned I was prepared to buy a group of them at the prices marked but the guy wouldn't sell them.
 
Ive got an M10 sporter too, damn bolt seems to stick at halfway through the cycle and Im not sure why, removed the bolt and put it back in. I can get it to lock up fine but I would sure like to have cycle a little smoother, is this a common problem ?
 
Pathfinder said:
Ive got an M10 sporter too, damn bolt seems to stick at halfway through the cycle and Im not sure why, removed the bolt and put it back in. I can get it to lock up fine but I would sure like to have cycle a little smoother, is this a common problem ?
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Good luck!
PP.:)
 
I have one, like PP's - hey PP! a sporterized M10 (MKIII?), it shoots much better than I can("only accurate rifles are interesting"). I think I was doing something wrong as I was shooting South African ball ammo through it and was getting some hard extractions. It's slicker than. . . its a very slick action. Regards FT. ;)
 
The .280s are beautiful rifles, but they are the only Ross known to have blown back on shooters, the M10 .280s that is. It's all in The Ross Rifle Story. The 1907 .280 actions are never known to blow back.

The problem with the .303s in WWI was close dimensioned chambers and crappy oversize US and UK ammo.

It was the .280 they were trying to copy in the .276 cartridge for the P13.
 
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Bolts from the 1910 actionned rifles can be arranged so that the lugs do not rotate to lock; it is not only the .280 sporters. During WW2, the rivet modification was made to Mk.III rifles still in service. It prevents incorrect reassembly, but does not prevent stripping of the bolt. The rivet is placed in the bolt sleeve, and the bolthead is altered slightly.
As far as the bolt sticking during cycling, check the little flange at the rear of the magazine. Sometimes these are bent, and make contact with the bolt.
 
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fat tony said:
I have one, like PP's - hey PP! a sporterized M10 (MKIII?), it shoots much better than I can("only accurate rifles are interesting"). I think I was doing something wrong as I was shooting South African ball ammo through it and was getting some hard extractions. It's slicker than. . . its a very slick action. Regards FT. ;)
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I shot Federal and Winchester factory ammo in my 1910 MkIII and the Winchester fed and extracted real slick. The Federal load I tried had a problem, it continually hung up on the chamber mouth and was hard to eject too!(hotter load or sticky brass, I don't know):confused:
So, now I'll try Federal brass and Winchester brass with the same bullet, Hornady's 174gr. FMJBT. Ross rifles seem to like that profile.
Perhaps it is a question of rifling or tighter diameter of bore but they do not seem to prefer flat-based ammo like the Enfields. I think it has something to do with upsetting of the base upon firing: maybe the larger bore diameter of the Enfields benefits from a bullet that upsets to fill the grooves. The boat-tailed bullets do not upset much, compared with the flat-based ones.
I'm going to try Nosler "J" bullets if I can find some in that diameter; they are supposed to do just that, even if they are a boat-tailed design.
PP.
 
Have seen a few Ross's around, but most of them are cut down barrels, and almost all have cut stocks. I am trying to get one that a relative has out West, but don't remember if the barrel is cut on it. I know the stock is. The wood on it is marked SSR (South Saskatchewan Regiment). My dad talked about shooting coyotes with it when he was a kid. Love the way the bolt rotates to lock up, but I can see it would have less leverage to extract a stuck case.
 
tiriaq said:
As far as the bolt sticking during cycling, check the little flange at the rear of the magazine. Sometimes these are bent, and make contact with the bolt.
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I think we may have a winner here, it only starts sticking a quarter of way through as the body of the bolt starts through that shaped spring loaded (?) thing on the left side of the receiver, Ill be taking a closer look at this.
 
Take the barrelled action out of the stock, and see if the bolt is still dragging. If it is, the problem does not involve the magazine. If not, try to locate what is causing the bolt to catch. There may be some damage to the magazine causing excess friction on the bolt.
 
A friend of mine, a retired CF armourer, has a collection of them and has rebarreled them to everything from 223 to 7 mag.

I was talking to him yesterday and he mentioned he had built a rifle to shoot 7.62x39 too, but it wasn't clear if that was a Ross or a Mauser, which he likes to tinker with too.
 
Have two, both military. I won't challenge the fact that it is a very nice sporting rifle. and the Canadian team won an Olympics with it. However the Canadian Troops in the trenches had a different opinion, equipping themselves with SMLE's at the first opportunity after having to "kick the bolt open with the ammo boot problem." by the time that was corrected, the Ross had lost any confidence the troops had in it.
 
I fire a Model 10 miltary and a model 5 mk II** military match rifle both rifles shot good and then I have a couple of 280's that I have shot.
I have fired quite a few Ross that have been altered, right know I have one in 35/303 and a 6.5/303 Imp built by Elwood Epps shop in 1957. the 6.5 is a excellent shooter
 
Rosses....... there isn't enough space here to say it all.

When I started shooting in competitions, I was banned from shooting because I had a Ross: the young guys were scared the bolt would blow back and the old guys said that having a Ross was "unfair" to them (they had scopes, I had iron sights). So I went to the gravel pit and I'm still there, having fun.

Most Rosses will shoot very darned well indeed, given that the bores have been preserved. That wonderful trigger was STANDARD on the M-10 and there is nothing else like it.

I have 15 of them and have test-shot 5 of those in the last 6 months. Still a few to go, eh?

If the thing is put together right in the first place, it will NOT get out of whack by itself. The M-10 (Mark III) did have that problem; the pins observed in bolts are NOT there to prevent disassembly, but rather to make improper REASSEMBLY impossible.

NOT ONE of the Great War veterans I ever talked with had anything seriously bad to say about the Ross. Worst I ever heard was from a man who made it from Private to Captain, with a DCM from Regina Trench. "The Ross Rifle was unpopular, due to its length and weight. You couldn't get into a dugout with your rifle slung. We had NO trouble with the Ross Rifle, but we kept our equipment CLEAN, unlike some other outfits." Capt. George Dibblee, DCM, A Coy, 5th B'n, Canadian Mounted Rifles.

I have absolutely the greatest respect for the Ross Rifle and only wish I could afford to buy up all those sporterized and Bubba-ized ones out there.

I don't know any other military surplus rifle, 90 years old, that I can take to the range and EXPECT half-minute groups with original sights.
 
My M-10...fired with only one eye open!!

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My interest in Ross rifles is because my Grandfather served with the 20th CEF in the trenchs. I'd dearly love to find a MKIII issued to the 20th. Speaking of issue markings, any members expert on how to read the various markings on our Ross's? I know my best MKIII is issued to the 50th Gordon Highlanders (Victoria), but another I have has an O over 42, which could be 42nd Lanark-Renfrew Regiment (I bought it from Ottawa are), or could it be 42nd Black Watch Battalion. It's such a treat to see Ross's with there butt markings still intact.
Geoff in Victoria
P.S.(every time I read "The Ross Riffle Story", I become more confused!)
 
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