Entry level pcp airgun

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Id like to try an entry level pelletgun and was looking at the beeman qb chief .. but i really dont know much at all about pcp. Ive got a couple springers and pump pellet pistols but thats it..
..do pcp airguns last or are they like the co2 pelletguns that dont
 
I have no experience with the gun you mention, but anything can break down/leak. The most trouble free PCP air rifle I’ve owned is a CZ200s(me knocking on wood here). All I’ve ever done is adjust the trigger and repeatedly fill and empty it. I will say this though, the old adage you get what you pay for is relevant.
 
I splurged this year and bought a quality PCP rifle. AirArms S510. Had a regulator installed and a great Hawke scope. It holds over 3000 psi for months when I am not using it... super accurate as well and flat shooting with a heavy (10.34gr) .177 pellet at 950 F/S.

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I have had a hatsan AT44 for... can't remember- maybe 7 years? PCP is really nice, but also much more overhead than a springer. Mine seems to be going strong- several thousand down the pipe. I do find myself shooting my springers more but there is something about the pcp... Good luck- and you get what you pay for. That beeman seems ok to start- never handled one. Definitely it is no S510... that's serious kit!
 
If your airgun interest and purchase is long term than buy once, cry once. I've been airgunning for along time from cheapy to HQ springers and PCP. Go with Air Arms or Weihrauch, these are solid PCP and well built. Go with the cheaper brands like Crosman and the likes and you get what you pay for.

Look into the new PCP with a regulator and you'll be happy with the shot consistency well over 50+ rounds. With non-regulated you'll go old school and learn all about the sweet spot for fill pressure and shooting curve for 30 rounds and then have to refill again.

Sold all my springers and pcps and kept my Air Arms S510 FAC Carbine in .22cal as well as all the parts I need to swap to a .177cal.

Airgun Source is my choice for my airgun needs. They're in Peterborough, Online or store visit are the options.
 
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If your airgun interest and purchase is long term than buy once, cry once.


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I'm a Steyr fanboy... and while the initial outlay of $ might give you a sticker-shock... in the long run, they've been the best cost-per-shot value of all my gun-related-purchase!
- The only thing cheaper to shoot than airgun is archery... I got 6 years of use out of my Easton X7 arrows, talk about cheap range days!
 
I checked some reviews of air arms and they are a fine pelletgun ! Actually, when i add up all the bucks i put intobuying crap springers and pumpguns, im over700 dollars. I guess i learn the hardway much like i did with centerfire.
After looking at reviews... i think the air arms s200 fits the bill, now to start saving the xtra bucks .. doh
 
For a comparison, look into the FX Streamline. I've had mine for a year and a half now, and it's excellent. Main difference over the AA S510 is that it's regulated, and a chunk lighter in weight. Also, the adjustability has solid clicks in it, so you can easily repeat the power levels. Great rifle, and deadly accurate.
 
I have a beeman qb chief and really like it...does not leak and has a power adjuster so you can fine tune it. it only has a 2000 psi fill level so it can be filled with a hand pump. shoots about 850fps with .22 14.3 grain pellets. I have had it for a year and shoot it often. Even converted it to a repeater instead of the single shot.

Id like to try an entry level pelletgun and was looking at the beeman qb chief .. but i really dont know much at all about pcp. Ive got a couple springers and pump pellet pistols but thats it..
..do pcp airguns last or are they like the co2 pelletguns that dont
 
I checked some reviews of air arms and they are a fine pelletgun ! Actually, when i add up all the bucks i put intobuying crap springers and pumpguns, im over700 dollars. I guess i learn the hardway much like i did with centerfire.
After looking at reviews... i think the air arms s200 fits the bill, now to start saving the xtra bucks .. doh

The Air Arms S200 is a very good PCP rifle. It is the same as the CZ 200 T with only some differences in the stocks. Other quality brands are Weihrauch (referred to in an earlier post) as well as FX and Daystate, but they will be more costly than the AA S200/CZ 200 T. Choose the caliber according to your needs.

Something else to save for is either a PCP pump to fill the air reservoir or an air tank, such as a scuba tank or a carbon fiber tank.
 
I splurged this year and bought a quality PCP rifle. AirArms S510. Had a regulator installed and a great Hawke scope. It holds over 3000 psi for months when I am not using it... super accurate as well and flat shooting with a heavy (10.34gr) .177 pellet at 950 F/S.

Well, the hook is set.

Son in law is getting a basic Gamo for Xmas to get him started in practice and using a gun. Have been doing some research and found this post and after checking out Airgun Source that AirArms S510 it’s on my 2019 purchase list. Totally new to PCP so research time on filling and that regulator you mention.
 
Well, the hook is set.

Son in law is getting a basic Gamo for Xmas to get him started in practice and using a gun. Have been doing some research and found this post and after checking out Airgun Source that AirArms S510 it’s on my 2019 purchase list. Totally new to PCP so research time on filling and that regulator you mention.

They can supply and install a HUMA regulator... one of the best. I also purchased a Carbon Fiber tank (4500 psi). Scuba refill shops only go to 3500 psi. I purchased a small compressor capable of 6000 psi on ebay.
 
Just a warning, getting intp Pcps has been reffered to as going to the dark side. You may never go back to springers especislly if you get a higher line model. The cz sounds good, but even the cheaper brands shoot better than most springers and are more dependable than co2. If your planning on a hand pump then fill pressures over 2500 psi wont be easy to get to. Tanks, and compressors get expensive fast.
 
I'm researching pcps and to me a 22 cal pcp is perfect for small game and fun target shooting. I have my first choices narrowed down to either a gamo gauntlet, the aa s200 or the Benjamin fortitude. All these have pros and cons. It will come down to cost and availability.
 
I'm researching pcps and to me a 22 cal pcp is perfect for small game and fun target shooting. I have my first choices narrowed down to either a gamo gauntlet, the aa s200 or the Benjamin fortitude. All these have pros and cons. It will come down to cost and availability.

Well the Fortitude is nothing but a Maximus with a multi shot breech. I don't see any Canadian dealers stocking them. So I don't think they made a Canadian Non baffled shroud yet. O shoot lists them for 622 CAD but you can get better gun than a benjamin. But they're a catalog dealer so what they list, may not be able to get.

Having had a maximus.. It was meh.. Sold it for a KRAL. But sold that because didn't fit well.
 
Well the Fortitude is nothing but a Maximus with a multi shot breech. I don't see any Canadian dealers stocking them. So I don't think they made a Canadian Non baffled shroud yet. O shoot lists them for 622 CAD but you can get better gun than a benjamin. But they're a catalog dealer so what they list, may not be able to get.

Having had a maximus.. It was meh.. Sold it for a KRAL. But sold that because didn't fit well.

Thanks for the info. I'm leaning more to the s200. The gauntlet just might be to big.
 
They can supply and install a HUMA regulator... one of the best. I also purchased a Carbon Fiber tank (4500 psi). Scuba refill shops only go to 3500 psi. I purchased a small compressor capable of 6000 psi on ebay.

You know not to surpass the 4500lb limit.. right?

Keep in mind OP, That PCP rifles and pistols have a service life to their tanks. Wierach states ten years and can be re-certified for another 10 after testing. Carbon tanks require retesting either every 3 or 5 year and have a service life of 15 years. Wierach will only service a tank on their guns 20 years max. Even if you never have it full they are going to put a time stamp . So.on it. So use it!

With regards to pressure.. If you buy a gun that requires 3000 psi to fill, you need a way to get 3kpsi into it. If you have an external tank, you will not be able to properly use a 3000 psi divers tank as the there is not differential pressure. The carbon tanks is the only way to go. you can fill X amount of times from 4500 --> 3000 psi before that external will require filling again. Some guns require ( or more aptly, 'will hold') more than 3k. Some go to 3200 and even 3600 PSI. so research your gun and your filling options. Trying to fill a 3,6, or 9 liter cylinder by hand pump will take you forever but youll end up looking like Hulk Hogan. Im not sure if dive shops will go above 3500 psi as Guntech mentioned. and again pros and cons. If you go to a dive shop you will get nice clean dry air pumped into your cylinder. This is good for your gun.

GunTech if im not mistaken you live on VI yes? We have ridiculous humidity here. One of the physical properties of high pressure air is that it does not like to hold moisture. So, when you run your 6k pump you do need to have a water trap in place because as the air is compressed all moisture in suspension will condense and precipitate out of the compressed air. When you go to fill your gun you risk drawing in water... I trust that you do have some sort of separator in place.. If not, its a good idea to put one in. That moisture can get into your gun and mess it up.. Rust and corrosion.... nasty sh**.


BTW that CF cylinder is tested to some 500+bar burst pressure. The 300bar is the typical '80% safety' margin that you would see on most gear in the world regardless of what it is.. this doesn't mean one should overfill a cylinder. kinda like going over max load on your 308.

I hope im not preaching to the choir here.. Nothing worse than being told something you already know. Cheers Gents! Gonna go back to my popcorn for a bit!
 
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I splurged this year and bought a quality PCP rifle. AirArms S510. Had a regulator installed and a great Hawke scope. It holds over 3000 psi for months when I am not using it... super accurate as well and flat shooting with a heavy (10.34gr) .177 pellet at 950 F/S.

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177-target.jpg

The s510 is an excellent choice, likely one of the best.
 
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