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Chamber and barrel are clear. I am not sure what was left around my shooting area since I took off immediately once I thought I lost some of my face.
"Battle proven" is what IWI web site says. I've been wondering though what battle was this design proven at? Battle against the Philistines? It takes many years and various kind of battles to prove and perfect designs.
There's a reason IWI came up with recommendation to make a change to design of both Tavor and x95 by adding protective extension integral to the barrel, this was suggested not as remedy but as band-aid to deal with occasional breech explosions resulting in face injuries. I don't recall though if they ever implemented it. Last time I looked inside the Tavor I didn't bother to check. You're right, it's not a common, however known issue for this design. Glad OP is fine.
Not to make light of the kaboom or any injuries caused by it, but im rather impressed at how well the Tavor took it. It looks like the force went mostly down and not out the sides as much. It looks like the shooter's hand came out mostly unscathed as well as their head. IWI did some nice bit of engineering there. Sorry about the rifle. But the pictures are quite impressive.
Speaking out of turn here like you do mostly in the politics thread eh? Gather facts and evidence first before assigning blame. Also North Sylva doesn't scare easily. There is zero guarantee they will replace anything as they are simply the importer and distributer and not the retailer. Also the OP makes no mention of a warranty on the X95 or the possible lack there of.
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The gun is only a few months old so I would hope I have a chance of seeing a replacement. That depends on what the cause is determined to be I suppose. I can't say I am looking forward to dealing with North Sylva. Their reputation and my own prior experiences hasn't been great.
I ve had multiple tavors and have shot them for years--one wasn't cleaned for over 4k rounds---never had issues and especially like this--as for battle proven--these were issued to the idf in a number of applications so i don't get why the slag on tavors from your end but opinions like ars holes -every one has one ,so be it--as for known issue for this design--please explain as the so called common issue i have never heard of--- would be interested in an education..
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Seriously, lots of speculations about the cause.
There are thousands and thousands of AR15 KB, because there are millions of AR out there. . When there are enough of X95 out there and made, eventually statistics said a KB will have to happen.
Most of these things got sent to the engineer firm for analysis before conclusion could be made. 99.99% of the modern firearms including AR15 which was designed in the 60's, cannot fire out of battery unless something is made seriously out of spec , downright broken, or the ammo is bad.
And about ammunition - the US army consumes 3 billion rounds a year and you can figure the amount of Federal pumps out a year. You can do a bit of math to figure out 0.001% of 1 billion still got quite a handful of zero's after the 1.
Just like every couple weeks someone won Lotto max.
Saying that, the X95 design is pretty sound. The top of the receiver and stock stay in one piece and everything gets blown down.
There are thousands and thousands of AR15 KB, because there are millions of AR out there. . When there are enough of X95 out there and made, eventually statistics said a KB will have to happen.
Most of these things got sent to the engineer firm for analysis before conclusion could be made. 99.99% of the modern firearms including AR15 which was designed in the 60's, cannot fire out of battery unless something is made seriously out of spec , downright broken, or the ammo is bad.
And about ammunition - the US army consumes 3 billion rounds a year and you can figure the amount of Federal pumps out a year. You can do a bit of math to figure out 0.001% of 1 billion still got quite a handful of zero's after the 1.
Just like every couple weeks someone won Lotto max.
Saying that, the X95 design is pretty sound. The top of the receiver and stock stay in one piece and everything gets blown down.
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I quite seriously wouldn't say this is an ammo issue, this is a OOB out of battery firing/explosion.
I've had some with an old m305 that I then sold as a parts gun quite clearly explaining the problem BUT I didn't get nut cancer, I just simply had a case head separation and a separate double tap event.
I've had some with an old m305 that I then sold as a parts gun quite clearly explaining the problem BUT I didn't get nut cancer, I just simply had a case head separation and a separate double tap event.
I was mistaken. Looks like the case body is still in the chamber. It is so cleanly blown out and smooth that it was hard to tell until I tried to get another cartridge in the chamber. It's also in there very well, no luck using a broken case extractor. I am going to stop poking around the thing so I don't get accused of tampering with anything...
Likely wasn't OOB.
are you certain the ammo looked good when you loaded the mag?
and there was no possibility of barrel obstruction?
There are many possible reasons still, one of such as a bad powder load from factory.. but yeah, I would be writing a thank you letter to IWI as the design certainly contributed to your lack of serious injury,
Glad you are OK, and sorry about your rifle.
are you certain the ammo looked good when you loaded the mag?
and there was no possibility of barrel obstruction?
There are many possible reasons still, one of such as a bad powder load from factory.. but yeah, I would be writing a thank you letter to IWI as the design certainly contributed to your lack of serious injury,
Glad you are OK, and sorry about your rifle.
This. Like the AR15, the Tavor's firing pin cannot even protrude from the bolt face to reach the primer until the bolt is in battery. In addition, it also has a disconnecter that prevents the hammer from falling until the bolt is forward.
Well I have had plenty of instances of light strikes in my old TAR-21 rifles. I wouldn't say in even the worst situations they were close to firing but if I can mark the primer without setting it off after pulling the trigger then obviously their engineering is not quite sound. I have even done it with this rifle, if you baby the bolt assembly home even the slightest it isn't hard to do.
I am not saying it was OOB, it's just my own speculation which I am beginning to doubt after my look at the rifle today. North Sylva or whoever can make the call on what happened. I am somewhat familiar with what a gun goes through when inspected after a failure. They will get to the bottom of it. I just hope it doesn't get into them blaming ammo and federal either not caring or just passing the buck.
I am not saying it was OOB, it's just my own speculation which I am beginning to doubt after my look at the rifle today. North Sylva or whoever can make the call on what happened. I am somewhat familiar with what a gun goes through when inspected after a failure. They will get to the bottom of it. I just hope it doesn't get into them blaming ammo and federal either not caring or just passing the buck.
They actual have both options, but the current products have a spring.
Makes OOB even less likely, IMO.
