Saturday morning coyote

Nice job!
Out of curiosity though, is there not a law about not using centrefires till all biggame seasons are over? Someone brought this up to me last week.

In my part of the world, the only time one can't use a centre fire rifle for small game is during the deer control hunt (shotgun/muzzle loader only)....
 
In my part of the world, the only time one can't use a centre fire rifle for small game is during the deer control hunt (shotgun/muzzle loader only)....

Can you point me to the regulation on this? I’ve never heard or read of that in Ontario before. Mind you I’ve never targeted yotes during deer season but would like to know for sure on this.
 
From page 83 of the 2018 Ontario Regs:
"Hunters wishing to use a rifle with a muzzle energy greater than 400 ft-lbs to hunt wolf or coyote during the open season for a big game species (other than bows-only seasons for deer south of the French and Mattawa rivers) must have a valid licence for a big game species that a season is open for. Non-resident hunters should ensure that their big game licence is valid in the area they are hunting wolf/coyote."

I was just looking this up today.
 
Someone is seriously yanking your chain.


Sorry, I miss typed a bit.
I'm pretty sure, you cant hunt coyotes pe other small game with a centrefire during a big game season that is archery only. As he said it I had remembered reading it before. It may have changed, but I know one of my friends mentioned it recently so who knows.
 
From page 83 of the 2018 Ontario Regs:
"Hunters wishing to use a rifle with a muzzle energy greater than 400 ft-lbs to hunt wolf or coyote during the open season for a big game species (other than bows-only seasons for deer south of the French and Mattawa rivers) must have a valid licence for a big game species that a season is open for. Non-resident hunters should ensure that their big game licence is valid in the area they are hunting wolf/coyote."

I was just looking this up today.

Yeah I read that too. But in reading that it would seem as long as you have a valid licence for a big game species then you are fine to use a rifle with a muzzle energy greater than 400 ft-lbs to hunt coyotes during the controlled deer hunt.
 
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Yeah I read that too. But in reading that it would seem as long as you have a valid licence for a big game species then you are fine to use a rifle with a muzzle velocity greater than 400 ft-lbs during the controlled hunt to hunt coyotes.

I know I would NOT want to be caught with a rifle during the shotgun controlled deer hunt here while hunting.
 
I know I would NOT want to be caught with a rifle during the shotgun controlled deer hunt here while hunting.

Me either. Though sitting in a fence row with a foxpro screaming would probably make it pretty clear to a CO what one was doing. I also wouldn’t want to try and hunt coyotes wearing a blaze orange vest and hat - I have a hard enough time with the buggars making me out as it is!

I was just curious where the regs said you couldn’t use centerfire on small game during a controlled hunt.
 
Me either. Though sitting in a fence row with a foxpro screaming would probably make it pretty clear to a CO what one was doing. I also wouldn’t want to try and hunt coyotes wearing a blaze orange vest and hat - I have a hard enough time with the buggars making me out as it is!

I was just curious where the regs said you couldn’t use centerfire on small game during a controlled hunt.

I asked in an email a few years ago and asked in person again just a few weeks ago....Same answer........ During the open control hunt (shotgun/muzzle loader hunt) you can't use a centre fire rifle....

As far as wearing orange goes, even though most of the time I do wear camo..... I really don't think it matters.....as long as you don't move they won't know you are there.... (of course the wind has to be in your favour) but like I said, most of the time I do wear camo but a lot of times I place my orange hat above a tree or branch near by so someone doesn't mistake me for a big dying rabbit :)
 
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fratri... how long do you call at a set up before moving on to the next?

I have a hard time sitting still for long periods of time, so when I plan on doing more than one stand/set it would be 30 minutes max... When I can only do one stand I may sit longer 40-45 minutes. I have had a few coyotes come in after the 40 minute mark (not sure why they came in after such a long period of time-maybe they just arrived into the area or curiosity finally got the better of them-not really sure)... but most of my stands are about 20-25 minutes... I will force myself to stay longer if I am only doing one set. Most of the coyotes I have shot have come in relatively early, between 5-7 minute mark, some less then a minute, many much later but the majority, around the 5-7 minute mark... So the setup, playing the wind, being quiet on the way in-sitting comfortable=no movement before you actually start calling is very important because those coyotes might only be a hundred yds away.
 
Great report Frank, and a fantastic looking coyote. Your posts are about the only thing that really inspire me to take a run at them...honestly. However, I've been out after coyotes MAYBE 6-8 times in my life, and have yet to shoot one. I have learned something on every hunt though, so always time well spent.
 
I should add...I almost got my first Sunday night, but on highway 7 just east of Port Perry around 7pm. I was driving home (west) when I saw something flash in front of the headlights of an oncoming car. A coyote narrowly missed getting hit..and chose my lane to stop and collect itself. Almost smoked it with my Subaru. lol Big coyote too.
 
I have a hard time sitting still for long periods of time, so when I plan on doing more than one stand/set it would be 30 minutes max... When I can only do one stand I may sit longer 40-45 minutes. I have had a few coyotes come in after the 40 minute mark (not sure why they came in after such a long period of time-maybe they just arrived into the area or curiosity finally got the better of them-not really sure)... but most of my stands are about 20-25 minutes... I will force myself to stay longer if I am only doing one set. Most of the coyotes I have shot have come in relatively early, between 5-7 minute mark, some less then a minute, many much later but the majority, around the 5-7 minute mark... So the setup, playing the wind, being quiet on the way in-sitting comfortable=no movement before you actually start calling is very important because those coyotes might only be a hundred yds away.

thanks for the info, much appreciated. Hunting partner and I are thinking that we need to thin the yotes in our hunting area on Manitoulin, they were everywhere this year. Dawn and dusk, on cue, they would start howling from all directions. Are you using mostly dying rabbit calls?
 
thanks for the info, much appreciated. Hunting partner and I are thinking that we need to thin the yotes in our hunting area on Manitoulin, they were everywhere this year. Dawn and dusk, on cue, they would start howling from all directions. Are you using mostly dying rabbit calls?

Yes mainly dying rabbit sounds, usually start off with a low sounding dying rabbit (just in case something is close by) then go louder as the set goes on.... I remember last year or the year before I would always start off with a couple of coyote howls but for some reason, not this year.... Just goes to show you, it must be the setup not the sound that brings them in.
 
Great report Frank, and a fantastic looking coyote. Your posts are about the only thing that really inspire me to take a run at them...honestly. However, I've been out after coyotes MAYBE 6-8 times in my life, and have yet to shoot one. I have learned something on every hunt though, so always time well spent.

I remember during my first serious coyote hunting year..... I did 66 sets (I counted them as best I could remember)before seeing/shooting one....during that time I thought about quitting so much............................................. and thought those guys on youtube.................. were somehow just making this stuff up because there was no way calling coyotes works......

Glad I stuck it out.
 
Me either. Though sitting in a fence row with a foxpro screaming would probably make it pretty clear to a CO what one was doing. I also wouldn’t want to try and hunt coyotes wearing a blaze orange vest and hat - I have a hard enough time with the buggars making me out as it is!

I was just curious where the regs said you couldn’t use centerfire on small game during a controlled hunt.

In NL we must use .22 caliber or less(cf) for coyotes regardless of other seasons that overlap. I've written Wildlife numerous times, not even an answer. And they are supposedly attempting population control. It's sure working on grouse, rabbit and partridge, but not coyotes!
 
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