Finicky with ammo, and wasn't as good of build quality as a T97. Plastic upper was wobbly.
FD12 bullpup 12G
- Thread starter twyeh
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Finicky with ammo, and wasn't as good of build quality as a T97. Plastic upper was wobbly.
I have close to 700 rnds thru mine still works great and that is with shooting about 300 target load and a mix of buck and slug
Anyone manage to find a barrel shroud that fits these ?
On a side note for people asking about performance .
Broke mine in this weekend . 300 rounds of 2 3/4 “ ,
First two mags had one failure to eject each . Stovepipe deal . Easy to clear
Completely compatible with derya mags , f12 mags . Probably a bunch more .
After that it ran like a champ , no issues with any ammo . 290 more rounds with out any issues .
On a side note for people asking about performance .
Broke mine in this weekend . 300 rounds of 2 3/4 “ ,
First two mags had one failure to eject each . Stovepipe deal . Easy to clear
Completely compatible with derya mags , f12 mags . Probably a bunch more .
After that it ran like a champ , no issues with any ammo . 290 more rounds with out any issues .
onetwentyish
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- East Central AB (AKA Northern Texas)
Pay for my ammo and I will do it. I love my FD12
- Location
- Prince George
Picked one up and shot #2 3" steel through it with open choke and it shot great!
Very happy with it and it is quite accurate, recoil is very manageable and 32" OAL makes for a nice maneuverable hunting shotgun. Only prob I found so far is loading mags and the gun came with a nut over torqued so we needed to use a lage set of pliers to remove. Otherwise it is very cool!
Brad
Very happy with it and it is quite accurate, recoil is very manageable and 32" OAL makes for a nice maneuverable hunting shotgun. Only prob I found so far is loading mags and the gun came with a nut over torqued so we needed to use a lage set of pliers to remove. Otherwise it is very cool!
Brad
Trying to chose between this and the Derya Mk12. This choice has sent me down the rabbit hole of bullpup vs conventional...
I like the look of this shotgun and idea of a bullpup but don't have much experience with them. Plus I can't find any reviews, other than what people have said on this site.
I'm more familiar with the AR pattern and there a several reviews and threads about the Derya. So it seems like a good choice.
But... I'm curious how the FD-12 actually performs and like the idea of a compact but capable 12ga. Handled one in the store and it feels good but feeling good while holding it is different than actually shooting it.
I intend this to be my do everything semi-auto shotgun. So that means target shooting and hunting.
Anyone have any thoughts on this over the Derya?
Thanks.
I like the look of this shotgun and idea of a bullpup but don't have much experience with them. Plus I can't find any reviews, other than what people have said on this site.
I'm more familiar with the AR pattern and there a several reviews and threads about the Derya. So it seems like a good choice.
But... I'm curious how the FD-12 actually performs and like the idea of a compact but capable 12ga. Handled one in the store and it feels good but feeling good while holding it is different than actually shooting it.
I intend this to be my do everything semi-auto shotgun. So that means target shooting and hunting.
Anyone have any thoughts on this over the Derya?
Thanks.
rommelrommel
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I put in some more time with mine yesterday and I'm pretty impressed. I didn't have any high brass, but I did have some winchester AA super target 1300fps loads, I got 1 stovepipe out of 50. I then shot some score target loads which are not strong but not really weak either. and I got 1 stovepipe out of another 75 rounds.
I guess I need to figure out why my trigger pull is so heavy and see if it can be improved. Spoiled by my tacord versamax for sure.
I guess I need to figure out why my trigger pull is so heavy and see if it can be improved. Spoiled by my tacord versamax for sure.
rommelrommel
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I spent my afternoon addressing the crap trigger today.
First step was stoning both sides of the sear and the hook. Especially on the sear there is nothing resembling a decent surface, it’s covered in paint and crudely machined. Flattening and polishing the hook was also important as probably 7-8 lbs of the trigger effort was overcoming the trigger springs (front and rear.) I decided to bend a bit of the tension out of these, but after you do that the very rough disconnector and hook surfaces will not disengage. I determined that even with a polished hook/disconnector you still need 3-4lbs to have the trigger reset reliably.
With the sear I also stoned the top to try and create a clean break point, not sure how much this helped.
I also lightly stoned anything else that looked like it was rubbing.
I also greased the disconnector hook and sear, not sure if this was a good idea or not but easily removed.
Finally, and the majority of the pull weight I think was the hammer spring. I think the gun’s trigger is grossly over sprung to overcome the crap machining of the trigger components. I bent quite a bit out of this spring to where I’m getting a 7-8lb pull overall.
All that’s left is to see if there’s still enough hammer power for reliable ignition. My feeling is that there is.
This was probably 2-3 hours of fiddling, I am not a gunsmith but have tools, some common sense, the internet, and had a milspec AR15 trigger for reference (the main part of the trigger works on the same principles, same pin spacing, but the hammer and trigger are wildly different, no easy drop ins.)
The thing that concerns me in the long term is the apparent lack of hardening or anything on the wear surfaces of the trigger. Not sure if this is a valid concern but I wonder how it will hold up.
First step was stoning both sides of the sear and the hook. Especially on the sear there is nothing resembling a decent surface, it’s covered in paint and crudely machined. Flattening and polishing the hook was also important as probably 7-8 lbs of the trigger effort was overcoming the trigger springs (front and rear.) I decided to bend a bit of the tension out of these, but after you do that the very rough disconnector and hook surfaces will not disengage. I determined that even with a polished hook/disconnector you still need 3-4lbs to have the trigger reset reliably.
With the sear I also stoned the top to try and create a clean break point, not sure how much this helped.
I also lightly stoned anything else that looked like it was rubbing.
I also greased the disconnector hook and sear, not sure if this was a good idea or not but easily removed.
Finally, and the majority of the pull weight I think was the hammer spring. I think the gun’s trigger is grossly over sprung to overcome the crap machining of the trigger components. I bent quite a bit out of this spring to where I’m getting a 7-8lb pull overall.
All that’s left is to see if there’s still enough hammer power for reliable ignition. My feeling is that there is.
This was probably 2-3 hours of fiddling, I am not a gunsmith but have tools, some common sense, the internet, and had a milspec AR15 trigger for reference (the main part of the trigger works on the same principles, same pin spacing, but the hammer and trigger are wildly different, no easy drop ins.)
The thing that concerns me in the long term is the apparent lack of hardening or anything on the wear surfaces of the trigger. Not sure if this is a valid concern but I wonder how it will hold up.
...Furthermore, Can anyone submit a photo of a Hera Arms CQR forward grip on a FD12? I was thinking of trying this out,only that I cannot find any local stores stocked with it for a trial run.
I would hate to buy one, only to see it look like utter crap.
Cheers!
~ Tom
I would hate to buy one, only to see it look like utter crap.
Cheers!
~ Tom
