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Weird, only time I have seen damage like that was a guy shooting 300 black out in a 223 ar. He bought 5 boxes from Cabelas and asked for 223, they gave him 4x 223 and a 300 black out by accident. First 2 boxes shot no problem, loaded the third and kaboom.

Hopefully you get taken care of and glad your ok.
 
Ebola said:
Your being overly paranoid. Don't let Horilka's comment worry you. The Tavor/X95 is as safe as any military issued rifle as they come. In fact looking at the picture gives me reassurance. In this case the X95 took that kaboom like a champ. The force went down and not out the sides. The Israeli's did some nice engineering there.
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I agree and I am not worried either, I just got a X95 and my first time out with it I put 500 rounds through it outdoors in the cold, single shots, mag dumps etc. Not one issue

Id think that with the number of those rifles made, its a one in a couple thousand issue. Recently a guy on Instagram I follow put up a video of his blowing up in his face, but he admitted that it was an ammo mistake and one round of .300 was mixed in with this .223/5.56 ammo.
 
All that matters is that you are OK. You can replace rifles, you cant replace your face.

Just looked at my X95 and my Firing pin has the spring. This was the first batch that NS imported with the old style CH. Good old bait and switch advertising !
 
PinaKaleada said:
Do you mean the first batch didn’t have firing pin spring?
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The original batch of made in Israel TAR21 Tavors did not have the firing pin spring. All subsequent Tavors have had them. I can't see why the later X95 would have ever been offered without them.

That said, the lack of a firing pin spring would in no way contribute to an out of battery detonation. The firing pin can not project out of the bolt face until the bolt rotates into the locked position and retracts inside the bolt carrier.
 
Armedsask said:
The original batch of made in Israel TAR21 Tavors did not have the firing pin spring. All subsequent Tavors have had them. I can't see why the later X95 would have ever been offered without them.

That said, the lack of a firing pin spring would in no way contribute to an out of battery detonation. The firing pin can not project out of the bolt face until the bolt rotates into the locked position and retracts inside the bolt carrier.
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I concur with the observation about the rotation of bolt. I’d logically rule out the design being at fault. The only possibility must be either problem with material or ammo related.
 
Did you get a detailed report back or more of an opinion?

A manufacturer's cost price discount option sure would be nice on guns that KB with factory ammo.
 
Can-down said:
Did you get a detailed report back or more of an opinion?

A manufacturer's cost price discount option sure would be nice on guns that KB with factory ammo.
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Here is what North Sylva has to say...

"Our technician sent to IWI all the information pertaining to the X-95, serial #48219737 with a catastrophic failure.

The manufacturer engineers investigated the issue and determined that the failure did not occur due to a mechanical or operating malfunctioning but most likely to a defective ammo.

They suggest for the gun owner to contact the ammo manufacturer and provide to them all the information required to initiate a claim on this issue."

I would say NS and IWI are washing their hands of this. Federal is not going to do #### for me because no one can prove anything. What a joke.
 
You may be out a rifle but on the flip side you can still thank IWI for engineering a rifle that didn't blow the side of your face apart.

Sometimes you just have to count your blessings and move along.
 
B said:
Here is what North Sylva has to say...

"Our technician sent to IWI all the information pertaining to the X-95, serial #48219737 with a catastrophic failure.

The manufacturer engineers investigated the issue and determined that the failure did not occur due to a mechanical or operating malfunctioning but most likely to a defective ammo.

They suggest for the gun owner to contact the ammo manufacturer and provide to them all the information required to initiate a claim on this issue."

I would say NS and IWI are washing their hands of this. Federal is not going to do #### for me because no one can prove anything. What a joke.
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It's a tough one for sure. Might as well follow through with Federal though and see what happens. After that I would be communicating with IWI directly about what they are willing to do to get you back into one of their products at the lowest cost possible...... should you want to.

Even if someone was negligent with their own ammo, why not offer a low cost KB replacement option for your customers as an olive branch to anyone unfortunate enough to have a KB what ever the cause?

Will they be sending you the parts back? Is it repairable?
 
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You may be out a rifle but on the flip side you can still thank IWI for engineering a rifle that didn't blow the side of your face apart.

Sometimes you just have to count your blessings and move along.
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Building a gun that can handle a KB without serious injury to the user is an engineering 101 level operation.
 
Can-down said:
It's a tough one for sure. Might as well follow through with Federal though and see what happens. After that I would be communicating with IWI directly about what they are willing to do to get you back into one of their products at the lowest cost possible...... should you want to.

Even if someone was negligent with their own ammo, why not offer a low cost KB replacement option for your customers as an olive branch to anyone unfortunate enough to have a KB what ever the cause?

Will they be sending you the parts back? Is it repairable?
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I can't answer much of that right now. I contacted IWI the day after it happened, no response. I have contacted federal twice, no response. I asked for my rifle back but it hasn't been long enough to get a response I'd say. I am certainly counting my blessings but at the same time it's hard not to be pretty upset. I don't want another Tavor honestly, were I to get another I would simply sell it.

Just because I wasn't grievously injured doesn't mean I wasn't hurt and doesn't mean this gun handled it well. I was burnt across the side of my face to where all the skin peeled and I still have scabs and likely pieces of plastic still embedded. All of that is on top of my face looking like an angry individual took a swing at me with the sharp edge of a 2x4. If this were a mag forward design or if they had bothered to install a liner like in other bullpups I very likely would have had no injury at all.
 
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I can't answer much of that right now. I contacted IWI the day after it happened, no response. I have contacted federal twice, no response. I asked for my rifle back but it hasn't been long enough to get a response I'd say. I am certainly counting my blessings but at the same time it's hard not to be pretty upset. I don't want another Tavor honestly, were I to get another I would simply sell it.

Just because I wasn't grievously injured doesn't mean I wasn't hurt and doesn't mean this gun handled it well. I was burnt across the side of my face to where all the skin peeled and I still have scabs and likely pieces of plastic still embedded. All of that is on top of my face looking like an angry individual took a swing at me with the sharp edge of a 2x4. If this were a mag forward design or if they had bothered to install a liner like in other bullpups I very likely would have had no injury at all.
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A built in blast shield of some sort makes sense..... is there nothing?

I wonder if a self adhesive kevlar wrap over the upper plastic could be applied to reduce the flying shrapnel?
 
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