Welded and pinned xcr muzzle break removal

[matm]

I bought a new muzzle device for my 6.8 xcr and it turns out the current one is welded and pinned. I'm assuming a gunsmith has to remove it and reinstall the new one the same way? I could likely get it off but I don't have a welder unfortunately.

I'm local to Edmonton if anyone offers this service

Thanks

-mat

 

[guntech]

I don't understand why any brake would require welding and pinning... I believe the vast majority are threaded on. Saw the present monstrosity off or have your gunsmith machine it off and thread for and install a new brake.

 

[matm]

Its pinned with one small spot weld over top, not welded all around. In theory once you grind out the weld, the pin can be removed and the brake can be unthreaded.i believe it makes the barrel the proper length.
If its under, the new brake has to be welded to keep it nr

 

[Bartok5]

Welding on a new brake will do nothing to affect barrel length in Canada, which is measured from the face of the bolt to the end of the rifled barrel. Muzzle devices have not counted towards barrel length in Canada for decades. The US is another matter entirely, and I strongly suspect that this XCR came from the US as did my own - with a similarly pinned and welded Flash-Hider. I removed mine by drilling out the spot weld to expose the pin loose in its hole, which then simply shook out. Good luck, OP!

 

[guntech]

If its under, the new brake has to be welded to keep it non restricted

As previously stated, not in Canada... the accessory on the end of the barrel has nothing to do with barrel length regardless of how it is attached.

 

[matm]

That makes sense! Maybe I'll give it a go with a dremel and put on the new one.

 

[matm]

As previously stated, not in Canada... the accessory on the end of the barrel has nothing to do with barrel length regardless of how it is attached.

I have learned something today! When I first read about pinned muzzle devices,it was a US article causing the misconception. Thank you

 

[marshall]

One time in the past , you could do that, but not anymore. in Canada

 

[tiriaq]

Yes, that is a barrel with a "permanently" attached muzzle device to meet US length requirements.
How is the rifle classified in Canada? Is an XCR's classification based on barrel length?
If it is restricted, barrel length isn't an issue.
If it isn't, how long is the barrel, breech face to muzzle face? Hope that brake didn't get included in barrel length for non-restricted status.

 

[jiffx2781]

The first XCR-L I bought years ago (early gen) had the birdcage pinned on and welded.

I took it home and, as usual when I buy a new firearm, I went to clean the barrel. When I tried to push the cleaning rod through it got just about to the muzzle and stopped. Pulled it back a bit and gave it another push. No go.

When I pulled the cleaning rod out and looked down the bore I couldn't believe what I was looking at.

The hole for the muzzle device pin had been drilled right through the barrel and the pin had been driven through completely blocking the bore.

I took it back to the retailer where I bought it and their reaction was "holy s#!t!! We're so glad you didn't just load it and shoot".

They had a replacement barrel for me in less than a week.

 

[matm]

Yes, that is a barrel with a "permanently" attached muzzle device to meet US length requirements.
How is the rifle classified in Canada? Is an XCR's classification based on barrel length?
If it is restricted, barrel length isn't an issue.
If it isn't, how long is the barrel, breech face to muzzle face? Hope that brake didn't get included in barrel length for non-restricted status.

I'll have to pull the barrel and measure it. It is a non restricted xcr here in Canada.

 

[tiriaq]

Let's hope the muzzle device wasn't included as part of the barrel length, and that the barrel itself exceeds 18 1/2".

 

[guntech]

I'll have to pull the barrel and measure it. It is a non restricted xcr here in Canada.

Why do you have to remove the barrel? In Canada barrel length is measured from a closed bolt face to the end of the rifling if there is an attachment. You can do that with a cleaning rod...

 

[the_blacksmith]

Wow... that’s wild. Just goes to show, assuming people have any idea (even ‘professionals’) how to install hardware could be a dangerous mistake. My guess is that a smith shop got a very, very green apprentice to do that work and then never checked it. As anyone who has worked in any type of shop can tell you, all technicians are not created equal. I did quite a bit of work in a very reputable instrumentation shop as an electrical apprentice, and the shop was managed really well. New people’s work was always checked and their competency evaluated before being given new/unfamiliar tasks. At first it felt a bit condescending to be asked every time about if I knew how such and such worked, or have what I’d just rebuilt throughly checked over, but after seeing some mistakes the shop foreman caught from my (green) coworkers I quickly saw the wisdom in it. Seems the shop that did the work on that barrel hasn’t had that particular lesson yet.

The first XCR-L I bought years ago (early gen) had the birdcage pinned on and welded.

I took it home and, as usual when I buy a new firearm, I went to clean the barrel. When I tried to push the cleaning rod through it got just about to the muzzle and stopped. Pulled it back a bit and gave it another push. No go.

When I pulled the cleaning rod out and looked down the bore I couldn't believe what I was looking at.

The hole for the muzzle device pin had been drilled right through the barrel and the pin had been driven through completely blocking the bore.

I took it back to the retailer where I bought it and their reaction was "holy s#!t!! We're so glad you didn't just load it and shoot".

They had a replacement barrel for me in less than a week.

 

[Blastattack]

Welding on a new brake will do nothing to affect barrel length in Canada, which is measured from the face of the bolt to the end of the rifled barrel. Muzzle devices have not counted towards barrel length in Canada for decades. The US is another matter entirely, and I strongly suspect that this XCR came from the US as did my own - with a similarly pinned and welded Flash-Hider. I removed mine by drilling out the spot weld to expose the pin loose in its hole, which then simply shook out. Good luck, OP!

Why do you have to remove the barrel? In Canada barrel length is measured from a closed bolt face to the end of the rifling if there is an attachment. You can do that with a cleaning rod...

Barrel length has nothing to do with rifling. If you bored 14" of rifling out of the muzzle end on a 20" barrel, it would not be 6" long. It would be 20" long. It's breech face to muzzle face, provided the material in between is continuous.