Odd experience on EE

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That is the conclusion you have come to in your vast experience of 13 trades?

With hundreds of trades, I have found that the overwhelming majority of traders are upstanding gun enthusiasts who do their honourable best to describe items and/or pay promptly... people of character and integrity... you occasionally run into a bad egg, but that is what the "ignore" list is for.
I have way more than that, most times myself or the other party doesn't post a rating, being a dealer, you would be more cognizant of those, as people on here tend to use it to determine honesty/fairness, and perhaps it does, but I have had people say, " you post a positive response and then I will", so if you don't then they wont and everyone loses. So, it is what it is! I have probably close to 80 purchases/sales through sponsors and a few individuals here, if that matters st all, it doesn't to me!
 
I called my stock broker concerning a stock that was at $30 a share and instructed him to purchase 1000 shares. He called me back and told me that before he could buy a single share, the price had jumped up to $42 a share. Do these people not know who I am! I told my broker I was going to buy and he entered into it into his computer and even though the purchase did not go through, it is still good enough for me. I feel that I am entitled to $12,000 even though none of my money left my account.

I feel what the OP is putting down and I think he should sue for false advertisement despite the fact that the seller is not a business but who cares! Only purchasers can change their minds and not sellers. I think the seller should give the buyer the $100 TT clone and if it had been sold to someone else for $50 more than not only should the OP get the $50 difference but also a public apology and an above the pants antler rub.
Thanks man, appreciate the support but could do without the antler thing!
 
EE isn't bad... Facebook buy/sell groups drive me bonkers. People will say "interested" on an item. I'll say "I'll take it"... and often they say that the other person spoke 1st, so they get 1st opportunity.

I'll take it, or sold, or we have a deal... should mean TO BOTH PARTIES, that this is done. Until that is clearly communicated, you should have no expectation on either end that anything is done, and free market can do as it pleases.
 
I have way more than that, most times myself or the other party doesn't post a rating, being a dealer, you would be more cognizant of those, as people on here tend to use it to determine honesty/fairness, and perhaps it does, but I have had people say, " you post a positive response and then I will", so if you don't then they wont and everyone loses. So, it is what it is! I have probably close to 80 purchases/sales through sponsors and a few individuals here, if that matters st all, it doesn't to me!

I understand the "you post a positive response and then I will", that's how I roll. If someone burns me I simply don't give them a trader rating and in turn they don't give me one. Its the safest, least stressful way to go. The first time I gave a negative rating I got one in return, lots of drama, the seller started posting edited fabricated emails and suggesting all kinds of lies. In the end I got my money but it was not worth the negative energy. I still have that rating and I use it as a example when people argue that does not happen... That said if you do give someone a bad rating I find other people will follow suit, no one wants to be the first guy against a well known seller.
 
I understand the "you post a positive response and then I will", that's how I roll. If someone burns me I simply don't give them a trader rating and in turn they don't give me one. Its the safest, least stressful way to go. The first time I gave a negative rating I got one in return, lots of drama, the seller started posting edited fabricated emails and suggesting all kinds of lies. In the end I got my money but it was not worth the negative energy. I still have that rating and I use it as a example when people argue that does not happen... That said if you do give someone a bad rating I find other people will follow suit, no one wants to be the first guy against a well known seller.
Ok, I understand that, I actually didn't know that both parties had to post a rating before it showed up. Yes I posted this thread more or less to see if this was normal or acceptable,,, got lots of info, positive and negative but I guess that's what these threads are about. I would not give a bad rating to anyone unless every avenue has been gone through to remedy the situation.
 
I have way more than that, most times myself or the other party doesn't post a rating, being a dealer, you would be more cognizant of those, as people on here tend to use it to determine honesty/fairness, and perhaps it does, but I have had people say, " you post a positive response and then I will", so if you don't then they wont and everyone loses. So, it is what it is! I have probably close to 80 purchases/sales through sponsors and a few individuals here, if that matters st all, it doesn't to me!

I am not a dealer, I am a collector/shooter/gun enthusiast... and I post and receive feedback on 99% of transactions... you have posted feedback on less than 25% of your transactions... so if the system is broken, you will see the problem when you are shaving.

The shooting community is mostly a good group of people, you should not be approaching trades as though people are out to screw you over...
 
I have been burned on EE as well from not doing a screenshot.
Bought what was advertised as 358 Norma Mag brass. Came as 308Norma mag brass. Questioned the guy about it, and he said he advertised it as 308(He did not as I would not have even looked at the add) but oh well. Sold the brass to another CGNer and all is well.
Now on I screenshot the add every time now.
Just one of those things, just saves your ass latter if you need it. Not saying it would help but gives a guy piece of mind that you did not screw up, that someone else screws up.
 
Only one bad experience; and it was due to poor communication on the part of the seller; sent payment because the guy had a great rating; no response for over a week after the E-Transfer was accepted. The member eventually sent back my payment, but was snotty as f*** about it and gave me a bad rating.

If you are going to deal, be ready to deal. If you are going to drag your ass; wait until you have time to tend and respond to responses to your adds... or wait.
 
If someone burns me I simply don't give them a trader rating and in turn they don't give me one. Its the safest, least stressful way to go. The first time I gave a negative rating I got one in return, lots of drama, the seller started posting edited fabricated emails and suggesting all kinds of lies.

This is why the system's broken. Fear of retaliation allows that person to become a repeat offender. I'm not singling you out Newby, in fact just the opposite, I sympathize with you. It sucks that people can blackmail our rating. Is there a better system? I'm not sure that there is but that's why proper due diligence is of the utmost importance.
 
EE isn't bad... Facebook buy/sell groups drive me bonkers. People will say "interested" on an item. I'll say "I'll take it"... and often they say that the other person spoke 1st, so they get 1st opportunity.

I'll take it, or sold, or we have a deal... should mean TO BOTH PARTIES, that this is done. Until that is clearly communicated, you should have no expectation on either end that anything is done, and free market can do as it pleases.
I would have no confidence in a Facebook buy and sell for firearms..
 
This is why the system's broken. Fear of retaliation allows that person to become a repeat offender. I'm not singling you out Newby, in fact just the opposite, I sympathize with you. It sucks that people can blackmail our rating. Is there a better system? I'm not sure that there is but that's why proper due diligence is of the utmost importance.

Yupp. I got negative feedback because I agreed to meet a guy to buy a gun, drove an hour across town, waited for another hour, and when buddy finally answered his phone he said it was sold to someone else. So I left negative feedback, so he did the same to me. Contacted the mods because I didn't do anything wrong and both of us got the negative feedback removed.

Really makes you wonder what the point of negative feedback is if you can't use it without getting some yourself...
 
Yupp. I got negative feedback because I agreed to meet a guy to buy a gun, drove an hour across town, waited for another hour, and when buddy finally answered his phone he said it was sold to someone else. So I left negative feedback, so he did the same to me. Contacted the mods because I didn't do anything wrong and both of us got the negative feedback removed.

Really makes you wonder what the point of negative feedback is if you can't use it without getting some yourself...

I think its a good system to ensure the fraudsters don't get on here, take the money and run sort of thing. That said lets be honest, no one sells 100-500 guns with no one having a problem. A lot of high volume sellers have never fired the gun so there are bound to be issues, a lot of the resales come from the Auctions, Auctions can be dumping grounds. With the exception of collector guns I always post whether I have fired the gun or not.. Its a pet peeve of mine when the seller has stated the mechanical condition but has never fired the gun, we are not all gun smiths !!
 
Very few guns on the EE come from auctions... have you seen what auction pieces sell for? Try making a profit on that and you will go hungry fast.
 
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In what way was I off point? Or did you just run out of things to say and felt that posting such an image would be enough to make yourself feel like you made some point of your own?
 
FWIW, in my view, if a firm deal was not struck, the OP is just whining about not being able to capitalize on a guy who didn't know the value of what he had. Someone likely pointed out to him that he would get taken advantage of and he corrected his asking price before agreeing to sell to anyone - I don't see the issue except for the OP's unrealistic view of the situation.

If you grandmother listed a mint 1969 camaro for $5000, would you want her to sell it to the first guy to ask after it, or would you consider it reasonable that she re-list it for fair market value after you had a chance to point out to her she was about to get proverbially raped?
 
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