Campro 223 is all I use for my plinking needs. Its more accurate than AE223 so I'm happy
Xmetal Bullets for reloading... Two Strikes, and they are out!
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Campro 223 is all I use for my plinking needs. Its more accurate than AE223 so I'm happy
Aside from being more expensive than a plated CamPro in my neck of the woods I have no issues with Xmetal bullets. They load fine, shoot fine and have no/reduced leading. Although I still primarily load CamPro I have/do use Xmetal bullets in 9mm (124gr & 147gr) and exclusively in .38 special (158gr).
OkayShooter
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Well how many times are you going to complain about a bullet not working in your cheap guns? Because you blame xmetal, but nobody else really has function issues. You tried to educate me, on them. When I run 1000s without issues. So again makes me sound like user error. Not setting the right OAL for that bullet, or not using a factory crimp. But hey you been reloading since the 70s, so I guess you know all. If other people have no issues with these bullets like you do.. Then what does that tell you?
FP works perfect in my father XD40, and Glock 35. Because that all he uses. With 1000s of rounds thru them.
If I do my part, I can do 1.5-2 moa at 100m with campros. I also get 3-4moa groups with AE223 and sometimes more when I get those flyers
Honestly, I know what I know; and your opinion does not reflect my experience. Do you honestly think that I did not investigate my neck-sizing (die bottoms out on the shell holder BTW giving maximum lead in for the bullets); my COAL (worked back from 1.135 to 1.11 and up to 1.15 with little or no effect); my crimping; (heavier, lighter; tighter/looser with little or no effect). For me they are crap. No other make/shape causes issues; therefore having ruled out COAL, Crimping, neck sizing, different kinds of brass; other makes of bullets; the root cause analysis can only conclude that it is the xmetal bullets; I went through the same process of elimination with their .45 ACP (which were not as bad; only one or two jams per mag).
The root cause is further supported by the fact that having eliminated this one variable (xmetal bullets) that both pistols of different calibers no longer have feeding issues.
If you want them, they will be for sale cheap. Put your money where your mouth is when they go up in the EE.
The 147gr bullets are RNFP and they work extremely well in every handgun I own.
I still think there's a problem with your setup or handgun. You have to ask yourself why isn't everybody else having so many problems with these bullets?!
I have used Xmetal 147s and 124s in both my open gun and my other 9mm guns with zero issues. With the right amount of bell, they load very easily and a light crimp after that. I've probably run a thousand or so thru my open gun and they work fine. (and no, there's no sign of any build up in the comp before someone says anything). The good thing about XM is they are a little "faster" than plated or jacketed, so it's possible to make major with less powder, and conversely, allows me to use more powder to work the comp better.
In my other guns (including a PWS PCC) the XM work very well. I've probably gone thru 4-5k of 9mm and no issues.
Having said all that, I used to own a Glock 22 (.40) and it was a biatch using any kind of flat nose projectile, too often it would just jam the bullet into the feed ramp and FTF. I worked to try to figure it out, but in the end just used RN for it.
In my other guns (including a PWS PCC) the XM work very well. I've probably gone thru 4-5k of 9mm and no issues.
Having said all that, I used to own a Glock 22 (.40) and it was a biatch using any kind of flat nose projectile, too often it would just jam the bullet into the feed ramp and FTF. I worked to try to figure it out, but in the end just used RN for it.
With all the finger pointing at Norinco and my personal incompetence, it is nice to know that I'm not alone. I have no problem with truncated cone shaped bullets; either lead or copper plated; in 180 or 200 gr; just the round nose flat points from Xmetal.
For anyone who "loves" Xmetal bullets in the .40 cal pistols; here is your chance to put your money where your mouth is; the add is up... come and get them:
WTS : Xmetal 180 gr 40 cal "Sledgehammer" Bullets https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...-180-gr-40-cal-quot-Sledgehammer-quot-Bullets
BTW, I just finished reloading the brass that I pulled the Xmetal bullets from and I loaded them with 200 gr Campro plated; what a pleasure!!! Having not measured the Campro before because it always worked good, I did today.
The Campro measured 0.4000- to 0.4002 no mater where you measured them across their circumference. The Xmetal measured 0.4014 to 0.4045; often on the same bullet measured in different locations across the circumference.
This not only explains the feeding issues with the cases being stretched to oversize, but the shaving of the polymer during seating as well.
Those who have guns that handle this .40 cal stuff must have chambers as loose as a grain-fed goose's arse; and the bullets are about what proceeds from said grain-fed goose's are too.
