Can a person accompany a hunter without hunting license in Ontario?

Evanguy said:
Well maybe so, im pretty sure i remember learning about this in my hunter safety course though. But i very well could be wrong.

I was under the impression that if i had a pal, hunter safety card and propper tags and propper rifle for said tags, i could have one person who does not have a pal or hunters safety course or tags could be with me, carry the rifle and even shoot the animal under my direct supervision around 36" away or closer.

Im guess im not sure its within the law but i personally know many kids my daughters ages (8-14) that go hunting rabbits, phesants an deer with dads, uncles and grandfathers and have no issues posting about it on facebook and such
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In BC you can take the CORE course and buy a hunting license but not have a PAL, so lending a rifle to a some with a hunting license and no pal is possible in BC and we even have a one time hunting license for people interested in hunting. They apply for it, are able to hunt for a season and can then decide if they liked it enough to do the core.
 
Evanguy said:
Well maybe so, im pretty sure i remember learning about this in my hunter safety course though. But i very well could be wrong.

I was under the impression that if i had a pal, hunter safety card and propper tags and propper rifle for said tags, i could have one person who does not have a pal or hunters safety course or tags could be with me, carry the rifle and even shoot the animal under my direct supervision around 36" away or closer.

Im guess im not sure its within the law but i personally know many kids my daughters ages (8-14) that go hunting rabbits, phesants an deer with dads, uncles and grandfathers and have no issues posting about it on facebook and such
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I took my young kids rabbit hunting and had them kick a few brush piles. Honestly its like doing 10km over the speed 99.5% of the time cops wont pull you over...but then there is the .5% of the time when they will and give you a ticket.

So, if you can live with the consequences should they happen, carry on.
 
holzmeister said:
I believe you Sir are spot on. It is really dependant on the CO's discretion. It is not IF you are hunting, it is COULD you be hunting. Personally I would think twice about it.
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We have a very good relationship with our local CO - he bow hunts on a bush lot not far from the family farm that is surrounded by other properties we have permission to hunt.

This is a different gent than I dealt with previously years ago.

To be honest, at the time it never crossed my mind her tagging along could cause me to run afoul of the hunting regs. I got my start by tagging along hunting rabbits with my Pop, older brother, friends, and neighbors (as I'm sure many others have). BUT that was over 40 years ago....

I have a lot of respect for the CO's - its a tough job some days and you'd have to have a pretty big set of cajones to be in their boots....
 
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Evanguy said:
In the hunting regs says i can lend a rifle to someone without a pal as long as they are "with in arms reach of me" on page 90.

They know with out a pal you connot buy any rifle hunting tags or even take the hunters safety course. The youth liseces is so they can also buy tags them self aslong with the parent buying tags.

Target shooting in the woods is illegal here so the only reason one can have a gun in the woods is hunting.

If they cant buy a tag and you can shoot a gun in the woods without a hunting tag. Why does it tell me the rules around lending a gun to a non hunter. And uses the actually words " with in arms reach" like both being in the same deer stand.
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A pal does not give them the right to hunt, just because they’re within arm’s reach if you. Why would NOT having a pal entitle them to it?

If you call the DNR and ask them if you can give an unlicensed buddy in the stand a rifle and have them shoot the deer, I can guarantee the answer you get.
 
kodiakjack said:
If you call the DNR and ask them if you can give an unlicensed buddy in the stand a rifle and have them shoot the deer, I can guarantee the answer you get.
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When you say “unlicensed” do you mean no pal or do you mean no hunting licence? Subtle point but in Ontario you do not have to have a pal to hunt with a rifle/shotgun. All you need is to have proof of passing the CFSC. For example, your child or wife could take and pass the cfsc and that would allow them to obtain an H1 outdoors card which permits them to hunt with a gun. They would need to be with a person with a pal however but that is because of the firearms act, not the provincial hunting regulations.
 
Runningfool said:
When you say “unlicensed” do you mean no pal or do you mean no hunting licence? Subtle point but in Ontario you do not have to have a pal to hunt with a rifle/shotgun. All you need is to have proof of passing the CFSC. For example, your child or wife could take and pass the cfsc and that would allow them to obtain an H1 outdoors card which permits them to hunt with a gun. They would need to be with a person with a pal however but that is because of the firearms act, not the provincial hunting regulations.
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I meant hunting license.


yomomma said:
Hey. No ones perfect and we learn by having discussion.

Some guys just havent caught on that you acknowledged your mistake already
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Yeah my bad. Didn’t mean to dump on Evan. I posted without refreshing first.
 
kodiakjack said:
I meant hunting license.
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I should have got that of course when you said call DNR.
Convoluted federal firearms laws...even more convoluted provincial hunting regs....except for hunting migratory birds of course because that is back to (convoluted) federal regs...sheesh, it’s a wonder anyone can keep it all straight! ;)Cheers.
 
And we all know, that having next to impossible to be in full compliance firearms laws are purely unintentional... Lol

Cheers,
Dan
 
I agree with the replies... technically, no, practically, yes.
There is a photographer who occasionally accompanies me and films my hunts. Head to toe camo, enjoys it, and has his work published, he is well known.

Lying in wait, yup, but I have never given it any concern. No CO that I know would press charges, especially when they realize who the photographer is. Pushing the bush would not be a good idea but IMO, have at it.
 
"...accompany a hunter without hunting license in Ontario?"

If you are hunting without a hunting license in Ontario or anywhere, I would advise your brother not to accompany you. But if you are hunting legally, I think Ontario regulations will allow for a person without a hunting license to be with you, observing.


Having said that, it's always best to consult the regulations and/or the enforcing authorities in the jurisdiction where you will hunt. The defense of "Someone on the internet said it was o.k." has not yet been reported to have worked in any court anywhere.
 
Note; I did not read this thread...

Most of us learned to hunt by "tagging along." Almost all children of hunters, learned by tagging along with dad or mom. I very much doubt that any C.O would levy a fine, if there is only one firearm, and it was in the possession of the licenced hunter, and you do not have more game than can legal be taken by the licenced hunter. This is standard protocol for passing on the traditions of hunting... I often have adult non-hunting friends and friends of my kids join us on various hunts to see what it is all about. That explanation would be good enough for 99.9% of C.O's... and that is good enough for me... I won't debate the technical semantics.
 
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