I noticed that Remington Canada has the 783 with a heavy barrel, thread and 24" long. Has anyone seen or have any experience with these? I'm looking to use it for target work and think this would be a fairly good entry level/priced rifle. Just looking for opinions as I'm fairly new to target shooting with something bigger then a 22lr
Remington 783 heavy barrel (24")
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Went and looked at one as I was interested in heavy barreled rifle. The stock feels cheap, the barrel isn't free floated and the finish wasnt great. I'd much rather the Savage 10T-SR which is on at Cabelas for $649.99 right now. Accu-trigger, accu-stock, 24" heavy barrel, threaded muzzle, 5-R rifling, detachable 4 round mag and a pic rail already installed.
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Didn't know they were out yet...
Have been mucking with the action for a few years now and continue to be very impressed with the design, material and function (except that horrid flat bolt knob thing). The factory barrel will likely mimic the other production barrels in that it should provide sub MOA performance with ammo it likes.
I was able to complete the CGN factory rifle challenge with mine in 243... and that was with the thinner barrel.
With any plastic fantastic stock, open the barrel channel, bed as needed and enjoy. They aren't meant to be high end products but are functional. If you want a really nice out of the box combo, wait for the varmint version with lam stock.
I have been quite happy with the factory mag. Some can come with bent lips but once set up properly, they feed very well. They will also accept a rd dropped into the action better then the Savage center feed mag if you need to single feed.
Factory trigger is actually really quite nice. If you get a hint of creep, it can be manually dialed out. There is supposed to be a timney trigger some time
I have mucked with a number in 308/243/6.5 CM and 223. All have extracted and ejected with authority... that can't be said for all Savages these days.
Beyond that, keep an eye on the firing pin spring. The ones I had came with poor springs which lost tension quickly. Some are just fine.. and hopefully, these new ones have addressed this issue. A wolff spring will solve the problem nicely and changing firing pin springs on any heavily used rifle is a good idea on an annual basis.
have been a huge Savage fan long before they were really popular... but today, for a mag fed repeater, I would go with the Rem 783
YMMV.
Jerry
I think the 24" HB, depending on price would make a nice entry into target work. A little bit of elbow grease and the barrel can be floated. I don't mind the stock but i would think the rifle will be muzzle heavy much like the 24" savage. Likely need to weight the stock for better balance.
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And if the factory barrel doesn't shoot to your liking, prefit match barrels are readily available in pretty much any spec you can dream up.
Jerry
Jerry
Which wolff spring have you used? Does wolff make one specifically for the 783? My .223 783 gives me intermittent light strikes.
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I seen the longer 24" barrel versions on the cabela's site but they were not in stock. so I picked up a 16 1/2 barreled 6.5. while checking comparing prices I found a few sites with the varmint model listed (710.00 to 750.00 range). It comes with the laminated stock but no threaded barrel. I'm going to look into either a replacement dbm kit or just swap the stocks for either MDT LSS or maybe the oryx chassis. I think given the price, performance, and after market options available / soon to be available they are a good deal.
Looks like they are starting to roll them out, sweet. I figured later this year. I'd wager the price is going to be right around $600 to try and undercut the 10t-sr.
With the 16.5" I'd go with the LSS, nicely proportioned. Had mine in one until very recently, with the 22" rem varmint contour JC barrel it felt like it needed more forend but with the shorty they look sweet.
With the 16.5" I'd go with the LSS, nicely proportioned. Had mine in one until very recently, with the 22" rem varmint contour JC barrel it felt like it needed more forend but with the shorty they look sweet.
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Wolff Rem 700 SA 24lbs spring (whatever the standard factory weight is)... drop in fit.
Jerry
Anyone know how much this 24" version would weight? Cabela's and Remington's site say 8lbs for both the 16.5" and the 24" version, I'm assuming it's a typo somehow.
The stock looks to me like it's a throw away, as there's no easy way to even incorporate a bipod with the plastic sling swivel.
Planning to build a 6.5 CM with either a MDT or the new Oryx Chassis. Trying to decide between this 24" 783 HB, Savage 12FV, or the Savage 10T-SR.
The stock looks to me like it's a throw away, as there's no easy way to even incorporate a bipod with the plastic sling swivel.
Planning to build a 6.5 CM with either a MDT or the new Oryx Chassis. Trying to decide between this 24" 783 HB, Savage 12FV, or the Savage 10T-SR.
Single shot won't work for me, as I wish to one day compete in PRS style matches.
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I have been running Savages in single and mag fed configs for over 14yrs. Love the action in single feed and still compete with it in F class. BUT there some quirks that are inherent in the Savage layout that doesn't make it quite as reliable as I would like in an AICS mag layout.
here the Rem 783 shines... it is speced for the AICS and AW mag. It runs very well and importantly, extraction and ejection have been reliable in my rifles and the rifles I have played with.
I have alot of choices for an action to use in this game. I will be running the 783 again this year.
Jerry
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Awesomealvin- out of the two I'd go with the Oryx, better balance both aesthetically and physically with the long barrel. Unless you can find a gen 1 LSS for it and have a buttstock and grip already the cost of the LSS gen 2 is going to significantly higher to get into. Both options right now are in queues for production, so they should be out by the time the 24" starts hitting stores.
Yes, my wallet prefers the Oryx as well. It is a tad heavy compared to chassis from MDT, however information I got all say that 24"-26" heavy barrel rifles are all a bit nose heavy. So perhaps the extra weight from the Oryx would be beneficial for my application?
I handled the Savage's and 783 HB several times, both of them seem really high quality. It's no Tikka or AI but I'm really just looking to build something good enough to get my feet wet.
I know the flat face ejector on the Savage put's it in a disadvantage in terms of ejection/extraction. However what's the issue when running AICS mags? Does it straight up not feed? Or does the mag get caught up with the bolt/casing? The only reason I'm looking into the Savage's (especially the 12FV) is accuracy out of the box, I have no intention of swapping to match barrels or anything like that.
As for the 783, rumor has it that Remington's quality is a hit or miss as of late.
Thanks,
Mystic Precision
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The 783 is built in the mid west and those factories are DIALED IN. I have mucked with enough of them to see consistency that only proper CNC machining can provide. It is almost like there are two Rem companies. I sure hope the 700 production can be moved away from NY and just get better.
the actions can have some rough spots and need a little TLC... something I don't begrudge given the price point. BUT the engineering and materials are solid.. minus the areas I have mentioned many times.
There are a number of inherent issues with the Savage wrt to running AICS mags and function. I have tried over the years to figure out workaround but so far nothing has been 100% reliable and in a PRL match, function is everything. There are a number that do run with the Savage so by all means, go for it.
Personally, I want no brainer performance in a mag fed rifle that is going to be put in all sorts of awkward positions.
YMMV
Jerry
the actions can have some rough spots and need a little TLC... something I don't begrudge given the price point. BUT the engineering and materials are solid.. minus the areas I have mentioned many times.
There are a number of inherent issues with the Savage wrt to running AICS mags and function. I have tried over the years to figure out workaround but so far nothing has been 100% reliable and in a PRL match, function is everything. There are a number that do run with the Savage so by all means, go for it.
Personally, I want no brainer performance in a mag fed rifle that is going to be put in all sorts of awkward positions.
YMMV
Jerry
Do you recommend shortening the spring at all when installing? I replaced mine after getting light primer strikes at about 150 rounds. Trigger pull increased by 1/2lb and my bolt lift feels a lot heavier. I thought I saw you post awhile back about taking a bit of length off but can't seem to find it now.
Mystic Precision
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You can certainly do so. 1/2" and see how that feels for you. some have purchased the heavier spring and have had an increase in bolt lift. The standard weight should not affect that at all as it is what the 783 comes with from the factory.
Seems someone at Rem decided to save a few pennies on firing pin springs. Dumb... but easily resolved.
Jerry
