Muller chokes tubes

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Is anyone out there using Muller chokes?
They're website claims that they give better shot patterns than the other manufacturers tubes due to the construction which is basically aluminum coated with ceramic and infused with some sort of teflon. The slipperiness of them is supposed to eliminate (or at least decrease) the hot spots in the patterns that other tubes get and give a more consistent spread of the shot.
Has anyone patterned them against other makes to see if the claims are true?
 
I bought a used Blaser F-3 that came with Muller chokes, and they pattern very well. They also don't come loose when tightened only with my fingers, and there is very little wad fouling. Mine are not the aluminum versions, they are coated stainless.
 
I bought a 1,2,&3 a couple of years ago for my Beretta 390 which is my Sporting Clays "rain gun"......Only had flush fit mobil chokes so wanted some sort of extended for choke change convenience . Usually go with the 2 unless crazy close or something clearly 40 plus yards.
Of course the extended Mullers are much easier in/out which I probably do too much during the events that I shoot anyways.
I have never tried them on a pattern board, but I have confidence in them and I have shot pretty decent scores with that gun/chokes combo.
They are in a lot of Sporting Clay guns at clubs that I shoot at in the New England States.
 
That's the other thing that they claim, very little wad fouling once again due to the slipperiness of the surfaces. Nice to hear that it is true stubblejumper.
And yes, they make stainless as well as aluminum. The aluminum ones are incredibly light, about half the weight of steel tubes of the same length, great if you want to lighten up the muzzles a bit.
 
I have them for my Beretta A400 and my K80. I like them but they're no better or worse than Briley for patterns but they do stay clean. Mine never come loose either When only finger tightened. Be aware that Muller only recommends certain products to clean their chokes
 
I did read about the cleaning requirements on their websites, it seems that some chemicals will discolor the finish.


BJP, do you lube the threads on your tubes before installing them? I normally lube mine with some oil but if I have tubes that come loose then I lube them with grease to slow the loosening.
 
Falconflyer said:
Is anyone out there using Muller chokes?
They're website claims that they give better shot patterns than the other manufacturers tubes due to the construction which is basically aluminum coated with ceramic and infused with some sort of teflon. The slipperiness of them is supposed to eliminate (or at least decrease) the hot spots in the patterns that other tubes get and give a more consistent spread of the shot.
Has anyone patterned them against other makes to see if the claims are true?
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They have been pattern tested by thousands of people and you will get opinions from the best ever to the same as everyone else’s chokes. Pattern testing is very subjective, especially when you factor in the endless options for shells. Everyone agrees they are low maintenance and stay tight. The aluminum chokes are very light and therefore reduce the barrel weight a bit. If you like to experiment, go ahead and try them. But if they were magic, everyone would be using them.

Or maybe get ahead of the curve and try Brain Chokes. The next big thing ?
 
I get noticeable results with good ammo, then one brand of tube over the other.

So few accessories available that change the look, and if anything I would rather smash a choke tube then the end of my barrel.

Go for it!
 
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Westward1 said:
They have been pattern tested by thousands of people and you will get opinions from the best ever to the same as everyone else’s chokes. Pattern testing is very subjective, especially when you factor in the endless options for shells. Everyone agrees they are low maintenance and stay tight. The aluminum chokes are very light and therefore reduce the barrel weight a bit. If you like to experiment, go ahead and try them. But if they were magic, everyone would be using them.

Or maybe get ahead of the curve and try Brain Chokes. The next big thing ?
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Yeah, I get that opinions are just that and that pattern testing is subjective, especially if the tester doesn't really know what they are doing or only patterns a couple of times, uses different shells, etc. Still, I was looking for opinions, have you used them?
As far as being magic goes, believe me when I say that I figured out many years ago that when I miss a target, it's my fault alone and not my equipment! Even if the Muller tubes aren't any better than any other brand, I feel that the aluminum ones have some merit if you have a gun that you feel needs to be a bit lighter on the muzzles. From what I've seen so far, they're almost half of the weight that most other tubes are for the same length.

The brain chokes are an interesting concept but I'm not willing to be the guinea pig on that one even if I was looking for tubes.
 
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I use regular anti seize on the threads. It's pretty much what they sell as choke lube, for a fraction of the price.
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I don't think I've ever used a product that was actually called choke lube. I take my tubes out pretty regularly to clean and re-lube them and I'm of the opinion that almost anything will suffice for lube when your maintaining them often. I used gear oil for a few years, the thick viscosity worked very well and stayed in place for a long time while it was still easy to clean out but the strong smell of it finally got to me. More often than not I'm using synthetic grease these days.
 
JIMMY 808 said:
I get noticeable results with good ammo, then one brand of tube over the other.

So few accessories available that change the look, and if anything I would rather smash a choke tube then the end of my barrel.

Go for it!
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That's kind of the bottom line isn't it, different choke tubes work differently with different brands of ammo and are not always consistent across the board. I tend to shoot anything I can get cheaply at targets under 30 yards and premium high antimony shells such as AA's or STS's for further targets.
As far as protecting the end of your barrel goes, the ceramic coat on the Muller tubes can ship if they get up against something hard such as cement. You don't want to make sure you aren't on a hard floor when your handling them in case you drop one!
 
I've used factory chokes as well as Teague, Muller and Briley. I can honestly say I've never really found a difference between them other than the Mullers stay tight and don't seem to foul as quickly and ported chokes are a PITA. The last batch Muller made for Krieghoff 20 Gauge was made out of spec (the 4 they sent me to try all wouldn't fit so I went to Florida and spoke directly with them and they are in the process of making it right) but all of the others I've used, I've been happy with (12 GA K gun tubes stick out almost 3 inches though). That being said, if I could only buy one brand, it would be Briley .
 
You went all the way to Florida to talk to Muller about the bad fitting tubes????? Remind me not to get you angry at me! :)

3 inches is a long way for a tube to stick out of the gun! That's one thing I don't like about the Muller's they stick out of a Perazzi about 2 inches, makes the barrels look really long!
I don't like ported barrels and I see no advantage to ported tubes other than to annoy the people your shooting with.

I purchased a set of Briley's many years ago right at their factory in Houston for my 682, I always liked their tubes!
 
choke tubes IMO are universal fit, if I order a tube for my gun and someone in Texas has the same gun and orders the same tube poof no fitting required.

They are made with loose tolerance some fit well some don’t mine shoot loose yours don’t you get gas leaks I may not. Kinda hard to tell me the inside is any better.

You should buy them though I see a lot of guys shooting at sporting with them, simple system with the U1 ,U2 etc and if they are actually better to clean win all around.
 
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Falconflyer said:
Yeah, I get that opinions are just that and that pattern testing is subjective, especially if the tester doesn't really know what they are doing or only patterns a couple of times, uses different shells, etc. Still, I was looking for opinions, have you used them?
As far as being magic goes, believe me when I say that I figured out many years ago that when I miss a target, it's my fault alone and not my equipment! Even if the Muller tubes aren't any better than any other brand, I feel that the aluminum ones have some merit if you have a gun that you feel needs to be a bit lighter on the muzzles. From what I've seen so far, they're almost half of the weight that most other tubes are for the same length.

The brain chokes are an interesting concept but I'm not willing to be the guinea pig on that one even if I was looking for tubes.
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No, I have not used them. I shoot a fixed choke gun. I have buddies that use them and like them, but would not make the case they pattern better. I genuinely think Muller sells a lot of chokes to people that like the look. Not that there is anything wrong with that.
 
Well, I think that aesthetics are important, not as important as performance but I've always thought that you need to like what your looking at or you won't be entirely happy! Liking the looks of the equipment your using, be it a shotgun or anything else will enhance your confidence while using it too! Frankly I think the Muller chokes are a bit ugly myself but if they're easy to clean, give good patterns and don't come loose then I'm willing to overlook the ascetics to some degree.
 
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