Campro's through JR Carbine

[m777]

Anyone reloading Campro's 45's in 230gr for a JR Carbine? I'm using W231, because I've got a lot of it. Data they publish says 4.2-5.3. I've started at 4.6 and the 1st two didn't make it out the barrel.

Anyone else using W231?

Thanks
Clint

 

[Meroh]

I'm using HP-38 (same powder; same data), and it is a "soft" shooting powder, but very clean. I load to max for my 1911; your carbine should handle at least the pistol data max. Load to 5.3; betcha it works!

 

[hatman1793]

4.6 grains of WW231 in a 9mm case is fairly hot, but the minimum load for a 230 grain in 45.

My book shows a max load of 5.1. I think I would try 5.0 & see how it goes....

 

[jethunter]

I think i would try a different powder.

 

[B]

Be careful loading low volume/low pressure pistol cartridges for a carbine. I usually start fairly close to max myself.

 

[m777]

So I tried 5.3, checked 5 to make sure the Dillon was consistent and all were so I loaded 10 and the 1st stuck in the barrel once again.

I guess it's time to move on to a different powder?

Clint

EDIT....I'm running small primer. Should I move to magnum primers?

 

[dogzilla]

I have seen in some handbooks footnotes for some 45 loads not to be used in barrels over 10 inches. In most rifles longer barrels mean increased velocity, but it isn't always the case for pistol rounds

 

[snooker]

I'm sure you could try magnum primers, but for sh*ts and giggles, try some large primer brass. Let us know if it makes a difference.
Or try some lead bullets.

 

[B]

Sounds like 231 isn't going to cut it.

 

[Betty-Lou]

Out of curiosity, how far down the barrel did the bullets make it?

 

[m777]

3/4's to about an inch from the muzzle. I bought a 3/8's unthreaded rod from Rona, so tapping it out has been that bad

I'll try large primer tomorrow

 

[m777]

Finally got a chance to try large primer. All 5 that i made worked. The wind chill was too high to worry about hitting the gong. Hopefully later in the week, I'll have a chance to try small magnums.

Clint

 

[curseyou]

Ive been reading about loading .45 for a carbines and I'm learning that fast .45 powders don't give as much improvement in velocity in carbine length barrels as say a .357 would. A slower pistol powder would be better to keep max pressure low and get superior velocity, but then your ammo is optimized for Carbine not 4" pistol barrels.

So yes, to get them all the way out you'll need to start with a higher minimum and need to work closley to factory ammo. Semi auto designs have less tolerance for variance in ammo than other design like bolts and going from semi pistol to semi carbine only lowers the tolerance on the low end.

 

[jethunter]

W231 is fast for a carbine. Try something slower. Unique, Power Pistol, 800X, etc.

 

[m777]

I read off the listing of powders Campro lists and all that my LGS store could get was Titegroup. Looking at the burn chart, it won't be any better. He said he hadn't had much luck getting any Alliant powder the last 3 years.

Thanks
Clint

 

[B]

W231 is fast for a carbine. Try something slower. Unique, Power Pistol, 800X, etc.

For .45 ACP perhaps. I use it with excellent results for .38 spl and 9mm in various carbines.

 

[jethunter]

Titegroup is not a lot different than w231. You might have to venture away from Campro load data, or ask them to suggest loads for a powder you can get.

 

[4n2t0]

Go with a slower burning powder, something like CFE pistol.

 

[Meroh]

So I tried 5.3, checked 5 to make sure the Dillon was consistent and all were so I loaded 10 and the 1st stuck in the barrel once again.

I guess it's time to move on to a different powder?

Clint

EDIT....I'm running small primer. Should I move to magnum primers?

Magnum primers won't make that much difference; they are usually used on harder to ignite powders. You may need to go to a slower powder.

 

[Tubeamp]

I read off the listing of powders Campro lists and all that my LGS store could get was Titegroup. Looking at the burn chart, it won't be any better. He said he hadn't had much luck getting any Alliant powder the last 3 years.

Thanks
Clint

Good day,

I believe Budget Shooter and X-Reload have some Unique powder in stock, if you don't mind shipping.

I have luck in my take down version of the .45JRC with 5.4 grains under a Campro 230, and 6.4 grains behind a 200 Campro.

Hope this helps!