Nosler accubond .224 70 grain
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Isn't 77gr a little heavy for the 1 in 9 twist that the majority of 223 rifles are using these days?
They were new for 2018. I don't think Nosler even made any until last month, I seen some content on their instragram showing the 70gr AB production. MidwayUSA shows them in stock in USA, so some should make it to Canada by spring
I have a couple hundred on order, for my 1:8 223 and 1:7 22cm
I have a couple hundred on order, for my 1:8 223 and 1:7 22cm
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Looks like a nice bullet for wolf/deer!
I'd like it out of a 22-250, but I'm anti-heavy bullet for 223 for coyote and smaller size game anymore. The trajectory is horrible at those speeds. Probably looking at a 60" drop at 500 yards at 2800 fps, if I had to guess. 50gr superformance in 22-250 has less than half the drop and same energy on target.
These would be perfect out of a Middlestead (22-243).
I'd like it out of a 22-250, but I'm anti-heavy bullet for 223 for coyote and smaller size game anymore. The trajectory is horrible at those speeds. Probably looking at a 60" drop at 500 yards at 2800 fps, if I had to guess. 50gr superformance in 22-250 has less than half the drop and same energy on target.
These would be perfect out of a Middlestead (22-243).
I guess depends on what majority we are talking about. That being said, most of the 1 in 9's I have seen shoot the 77,s just fine.
For target shooting or an animal that gives you time to range, agreed. For a coyote that steps out of a bush for 15 seconds at 400 yards, I’d rather have a flat trajectory and much farther mpbr and hold the 20% extra wind.
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Not me, the force of gravity is constant, and is easily compensated for by either through adjustments or hold off points. Wind can gust, its affect on bullet drift changes with angle, it can change direction without warning, and its strength is affected by terrain and vegetation. Compared to wind, trajectory is easy, especially if you are shooting under a time constraint.
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I can see your point. Often when ranging a target/animal quickly, the distance will be off a bit. More velocity/Flatter trajectory does increase the danger space of the projectile
This is a interesting comment, that seems to be repeated fairly often. I'm a curious sort, so just compared my 75 grn 223 load to some premium 130 grn 270 loads on BallisticAE. (Picked the 270 because it's so often held up as a flat shooter, though obviously not in the Middlestead category of flatness.)
Both zero'd at 100 meters, the 270 loads have dropped around 56-58" @ 500. My 22" barrelled 223 loaded with 75s... 54.1".
Obviously not a super scientific comparison- and only looking at trajectory, no wind. Still, serves to illustrate that the 223 with heavies doesn't have all that horrible of a trajectory.
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It's terrible for a coyote/wolf round. As mentioned, they're always on the move.
A 257 Wby with 80 gr would drop about half that given the same parameters. With proper sighting in of a couple inches high @100 yds, there's no ranging needed until you get past 350 yards or so.
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You lost me........
I don't disagree with your comparison, but the size of animals I have in mind (fox, coyote, ground hog) don't leave as much room to be off in range estimation. as say an elk, moose or deer. I would compare to 22-250, swift, 22 creed, and the aforementioned middlestead. Even the 17 and 204 are faster/flatter than 223.
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