IPSC Ontario approved handguns list

euxx said:
Well, almost... Most match directors recognize all divisions. Though they don't have to and can choose to not to.

Unless it is a Level 3 or a higher match - no one cares about "official recognition" (e.g. there is a requirement for minimum number of competitors in division). The "official" IPSC medals are from Level 3 and up and lover matches that give other trophies usually don't look at per-division number of competitors.

So, unless you are disqualified from the match for safety (or other reasons) you can see and compere your results. There is a software out there to compare even across divisions with various options for your own pleasure (or grief).
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Absolutely. I no longer offer Revolver as an option in any match regardless of level. If you're that one guy with a wheel gun you can shoot production or open with it depending on which revolver it is.
 
euxx said:
TrevorF, you never disappointed me with level of your decisions...
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Consistency is important Eugene. You on the other hand have been impressing me more and more as of late and my opinion of you has definitely changed for the better. Looks like only one of us is growing as a person and it isn't me!
 
If whatever gun you are using is not on the Production list, then you go into Open, and if you wanna shoot that 9mm minor that's up to you for the BB. You can literally shoot any gun you want in Open.
 
Not quite, could be a Standard div gun or classic...

Euro said:
If whatever gun you are using is not on the Production list, then you go into Open, and if you wanna shoot that 9mm minor that's up to you for the BB. You can literally shoot any gun you want in Open.
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Us poor (sometimes) revolver shooters :(
I have offered the full slate of divisions and yes get one or two revo or optics people. No trophy for them but they shoot in their division. Maybe a printed cert if there is time. I'm my location/situation not recognizing might mean I lose those competitors as they may only shoot that div.

Will be interesting to see how common Lite and PCC are this year

TrevorF said:
Absolutely. I no longer offer Revolver as an option in any match regardless of level. If you're that one guy with a wheel gun you can shoot production or open with it depending on which revolver it is.
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There are many of us who are just waiting for Revo to be dropped from the rulebook altogether.
 
Honestly, Revo just takes up space, it's a dead division and now that we have Optics and Optics light as well as Classic, well, something needs to go. They got rid of modified so Production could exist, at least that was the argument, and they've added 3 more since then.
 
Slavex those "they" who got rid of Modified are well gone now. Revolver has more heritage value than any other division and it is also fun to shoot. I hope to see PO Light go.

But your argument about taking space is just silly. I believe you personally take more space than most Revolver shooters.
 
Slavex said:
There are many of us who are just waiting for Revo to be dropped from the rulebook altogether.
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I'm not even in the sport yet and if they removed revolver division I'd only consider entering if they removed the barrel length restriction that seems common for revolvers in production division and/or the size restriction on standard division. Honestly, they should remove those two rules anyways, I don't see a point in them.

Edit: Also, if I'm putting together a wish list of rule changes, I'd like to see a "super" power factor scoring applied in open division for power factors over, say 220-240. I'd be fun to see some heavy shooters performing.
 
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mactroneng said:
I'm not even in the sport yet...
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That's funny. Why don't you try the sport as it is now before suggesting any rule changes?

I've seen bunch of rule changes since I started IPSC. You never know you may even get what you like. Eventually...

mactroneng said:
...I'd be fun to see some heavy shooters performing
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The way Open is currently set is to have it run like Formula 1. You are suggesting to run it like steam-powered locomotive. It won't be able to catch up with a race car. Not to mention that it doesn't fit well with HF-based scoring.
 
" I'd like to see a "super" power factor scoring applied in open division for power factors over, say 220-240. I'd be fun to see some heavy shooters performing. "
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Desert Eagle .50 for the win.

" It won't be able to catch up with a race car. Not to mention that it doesn't fit well with HF-based scoring. "
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What if Super-Major scored 5 points for all three zones? A, C, or D doesn't matter. Two holes on paper = 10 points.

I think it could be interesting.
 
Slavex said:
Actually it is IPSC Ontario's business what gun you shoot with, at IPSC Ont matches at least. Either it makes the list for Production/Optics division, fits the box for Standard, makes the criteria for Classic, or is a Revolver, and lastly, is an Open gun, although you can use pretty much any modern pistol in Open if you want.

I see all these posts about the horrible gun handling, skills, attitudes and so on at IPSC matches and I wonder, where are you finding these less than stellar examples? I've shot at matches around the globe, Asia, Russia, all over Europe, South America, North America and so on. Outside of a few specific individuals I've seldom seen anything like I hear about. I'd guess based on the stories I hear from people that don't shoot IPSC that every match they've observed, or maybe even participated in once, there are dozens and dozens of morons, idiots and massive safety issues and poor sports. Yet strangely in all the matches I've shot over the last 20 some years, that isn't what I've seen. So my opinion is that these people with these wild ass stories? They are full of sh!t.
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Thats my experience too. Never seen any bad behavior..quite the contrary.
 
JB said:
Id like to see the scoring system changed so that accuracy counts more then speed
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Go play IDPA. An equivalent C-zone hit is a 1 second penalty added to your raw time.

I think IPSC is a good balance, esp minor scoring. In a small pool of shooters, it may seem like speed always rules the day, but as competition gets closer, accuracy matters. Just my observation.
 
euxx said:
That's funny. Why don't you try the sport as it is now before suggesting any rule changes?
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Because if revolver decision is deleted I could only compete in open, that's why (unless I drop more money on guns, which I don't have). Do you really think that everyone shooting revolver division that has a gun that's a little too big deserves to compete in open if they aren't using optics and other performance upgrades?
 
jimbo14 said:
Go play IDPA. An equivalent C-zone hit is a 1 second penalty added to your raw time.

I think IPSC is a good balance, esp minor scoring. In a small pool of shooters, it may seem like speed always rules the day, but as competition gets closer, accuracy matters. Just my observation.
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I do play IDPA when theres a match around here also play icore too.You might be right when it comes to the small pool of shooters (ones that get paid to shoot) but for the majority its a pray and spray game
 
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